I understand, but in an ethnostate you likely would have to fight wars to protect your interests and with most of the world that'd be threatening you

Thinking the world wouldn't try ending such a state is foolish

Yes so, that's isolationism still, you're not seeking fights with these people, isolationism isn't sitting there while your country gets raped

Samson option might be invoked too cause literal nahtzees

It's waiting until someone tries something

Waiting for them to punch first is bitch shit lmao

@Punished Arcturus stop being a fag

You can't be stupid when it comes to war

Its okay, the Neo-Cons have gotten to him.

Punching isn't equivalent to war

@Констaнтин no u

@Punished Arcturus

It's the same idea. Waiting for them to make the first move is dumb

NK is being isolationist

I'm speaking generally

They're not pushing for war, they want nukes so we don't attack them

You know, its kind of hard not to threaten someone when they are on all of your borders and stop 99.99% of your trade, tightening your country into famine.

Why should we allow them to obtain nukes though?

Any country would starve if 99% of their trade was killed.

U neo-con or what?

For real

Yeah, I'm aware of the sanctions etc, I'm not saying we should do that. We shouldn't just accept threats to our people though.

Saddam didnt have nukes = dead, Ghaddafi didnt have nukes = dead, so many good leaders have died, NK only exists because of those nukes.

It is a literal life force.

Ghaddafi gave up the nukes on which he almost built, because they said they wouldnt attack, guess what? they did.

Dont trust the lying rat that is the US government.

The same people that push war with NK are the same people you say you oppose

No, not really. I just disagree that we should allow them to threaten to kill millions of Americans

We threatened them first

You will always be deemed the aggressor if you strike first, regardless of circumstances. Nations don't behave as a singular individual. One has to tread carefully when national conflict is concerned

Regardless of the circumstances surrounding it million of our people dying is unacceptable

The same people who want war with NK, are the same ones who caused Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, syria and want war with Iran.

They lie about NK, anyone who says differently is a fucking idiot.

No one has died and we threatened them first nibba

You wanna know a secret? 2 of the "nuke tests" over Japan by NK were not even picked up or seen by people, no one even knew until 2 days later when the US said it happened.

But you know, lie down and take daddy americas cock

Perhaps they are lying, I don't have the same information those in the defense dept do.

NK doesn't see Israel as a country also

As long as a continuous peace is attainable at no cost to our people, peace is always preferable. We have enough enemies as it is

Quit being a faggot dude we can have a polite conversation about this

NK even wants tourism, they built hotels and sites for it, but the US banned tourism to strangle their economy more.