Message from @Timo)))

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2017-07-24 15:09:17 UTC  

Hol up lemme take a guess

2017-07-24 15:09:22 UTC  

not at all

2017-07-24 15:09:28 UTC  

As with most social policies

2017-07-24 15:09:54 UTC  

Now I'm not against a safety net, but not as much as they are now

2017-07-24 15:10:29 UTC  

How about a state that pays for certain utilities

2017-07-24 15:10:40 UTC  

Which utilities?

2017-07-24 15:10:52 UTC  

such as water and heating

2017-07-24 15:11:14 UTC  

I'm not for privatizing such common and essential goods

2017-07-24 15:11:28 UTC  

The environment is a crucial issue most libertarians gloss over

2017-07-24 15:11:47 UTC  

how about electric heating?

2017-07-24 15:13:00 UTC  

Less so, i'm more for subsidizing people to create their own green energy and reduce what my country has now, the subsidizing to make it affordable

2017-07-24 15:13:29 UTC  

We had a program which subsidized solar panels, don't mind that really

2017-07-24 15:13:44 UTC  

solar panels are quite impractical

2017-07-24 15:13:53 UTC  

geothermal is niche

2017-07-24 15:13:55 UTC  

they're getting better and better

2017-07-24 15:14:04 UTC  

And everyone has a roof basically

2017-07-24 15:14:24 UTC  

yes, but they are expensive and there is limited graphite

2017-07-24 15:14:31 UTC  

it's almost a waste of money

2017-07-24 15:15:21 UTC  

solar panels were a great idea, but the output just isn't enough for what it's worth

2017-07-24 15:15:23 UTC  

They also get less expensive, that's why I was against doing it 10 years ago, the technology was not great and you hardly made a profit, especially if you bought one 3 years ago, you saved good money

2017-07-24 15:16:17 UTC  

Now there's always the question when do you decide to get them, maybe they'll be even better 5 years later but from what I know they can get a lot of energy right now

2017-07-24 15:18:02 UTC  

solar panels are not a practical means to solve the energy problem because they don't pay for themselves quick enough, and that there isn't nearly enough materials to manufacture them on this planet to suit the needs of the masses

2017-07-24 15:18:21 UTC  

I have nothing against research into green energy, but solar panels are not the answer

2017-07-24 15:19:00 UTC  

Oh i know there's an issue where they might cause a whole lot of damage when just making them

2017-07-24 15:19:16 UTC  

but it's clear it's economically viable now

2017-07-24 15:19:28 UTC  

viable if you want to make a poor investment

2017-07-24 15:19:29 UTC  

Depends where you live obviously but it's not a stupid investment

2017-07-24 15:19:42 UTC  

lol

2017-07-24 15:21:32 UTC  

For europeans maybe more so, we have to deal with Russia threatening to shut the gas pipes, maybe not a devastating measure but it will run your bill up

2017-07-24 15:22:02 UTC  

...you should be more worried about Iran if you want to talk oil

2017-07-24 15:22:42 UTC  

in either case, both of them should "shut the pipes", perhaps the western governments will frantically fund research into alternative energy sources and discover something.

2017-07-24 15:23:15 UTC  

Yeah, I don't like to be reliant on those type of regimes, and generating your own will give you more freedom

2017-07-24 15:23:33 UTC  

i get sick when I see my ''leaders'' buddying up with Saudi Arabia

2017-07-24 15:23:54 UTC  

lol. Saudis are powerless.

2017-07-24 15:24:12 UTC  

they only have power because the West chooses to buy from them.

2017-07-24 15:24:21 UTC  

Power still though

2017-07-24 15:24:25 UTC  

they are a one trick pony though

2017-07-24 15:24:32 UTC  

once the barrel sinks, so do they.

2017-07-24 15:24:34 UTC  

They get to run ravage on Yemen, not a peep from my government

2017-07-24 15:25:02 UTC  

Iran could cut off the strait of hormuz and cause oil prices to skyrocket in just two days

2017-07-24 15:25:18 UTC  

this alone would destroy SA