Message from @Builderelf
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in my opinion at least
like I agree that said unions need to federate, but these cartels are too general and too hard to organize I think
Would a trade union provide more stability than a drug cartel? That remains to be seen.
I guess thats debatable
And, good luck getting anarchists to centralize with no incentive.
but im in favor of the trade unions
i mean, anarchists love some direct democracy, i think thats incentive enough
and by making a directly democratic federation, itll provide more stability to the anarchist society while keeping the freedom
The fact that a warlord who only operates off of drugs and oppression, can provide more stability than a trade union is a god damn shame.
plus, its a justified heirarchy, because it's, well, directly democratic
id say so
Heirarchy is non existant in the eyes of anarchists, because they see it as oppression.
but nowadays trade unions kinda plummited in quality and popularity after the dang old 1930s or so
Well I wonder why that might be.
no, heirarchy is real, and its everywhere, anarchists just wanna get rid of unjustified heirarchy
Probably because stalin had them all murdered or thrown in a concrete hole in the ground.
@Builderelf I didn't say that it didn't exist, but most anarchists will come to a conclusion that hierarchy is a form of oppression and everybody is equal.
in my opinion, trade unions dropped off after the 1930s (especially in the US) after some reforms were earned and WW2 came around, so anarchism and trade unionism became a thing of the psat
At least from what I have seen.
"Heirarchy is non existant in the eyes of anarchists"
but your revised statement is true
i guess you just mistyped, it happens to us all
😉
sorry who did stalin have murdered and thrown in a concrete hole
@Builderelf I said that it didn't exist in the eyes of anarchists.
I didn't state that I personally believed it didn't exist.
meh, I still think anarchists see heirarchy everywhere
@Onlyinmizzou Too many to count.
you can see lots of us anarchists going on and on about unjustified heirarchy
@Builderelf You think, but how do you know?
so i mean, we think its real tho
Again, how do you know it's real?
oof, are we gonna talk philosophy now?
And what is such a thing as a "justified hierarchy"?
because then we'll start asking what "real" is
itll get messy
@Builderelf We would be beating around the bush if we did that.
a justified heirarchy? a direct democracy, where the people give *direct* power to a position
are you a newfag or something dude
don't just smear important and successful communists