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i was just asking how are things
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Quien actualmente habla español
@killsometime#2709 it definitely CANNOT be communism. If you have a state, you cannot be communist. You can be socialist
socialism in the pursuit of communism
but if there is a hierarchical government it isn't communism
if there is any state it cannot be communist.
people should know this by now
Moneyless, stateless, classless
who will maintain the communism if not a state?
a worker run state is communism in the pursuit of full communism aka ancom
with the state gone, anyone can just decide on their own what they want to pay their employees, when there is no state to intervene economically
when people say communism, full communism is meant.
not socialism
when marx talks about the state he refers to the bourgeois state
@kauserlol employees? wut.
a marxist state is still a "state" and is communism,
no it isn’t
alot of what a state is, is just semantics
There is lower phase communism, aka Socialism. Transitional phase. Full communism is stateless. Although of course law is enforced by community.
Just like in Anarcho-Communism
but it is how the laws are determined and put in place that is the difference between a Marxist state and a ancom free territory
worker councils/ soviets and the like
Marx states clearly. Lower phase communism is the phase with a socialist state. Full communism implies the withering away of the state
I guess maybe
hey
but there isn’t a definite structure to full communism according to Marx as far as I’m aware
hi there
regarding law making
well how does Kropotkin and Marx differ on law
my issue is that I don’t think Marc defines full communism on a social legal level
at least I’m pretty sure
the main difference between Anarchism and Marxian Socialism is the state
i personal don't think there should be definite rules. obvious things like murder would be dealt with immediately but most people in our modern world are in prison for victimless crimes