Que tal?

@Artemis no hablo español

I'm half Ecuadorian though

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oh nice!

i was just asking how are things

@Artemis things are good

nice to know bro

de donde esta el baño

Quien actualmente habla español

@killsometime#2709 it definitely CANNOT be communism. If you have a state, you cannot be communist. You can be socialist

socialism in the pursuit of communism

but if there is a hierarchical government it isn't communism

if there is any state it cannot be communist.

people should know this by now

Moneyless, stateless, classless

who will maintain the communism if not a state?

a worker run state is communism in the pursuit of full communism aka ancom

with the state gone, anyone can just decide on their own what they want to pay their employees, when there is no state to intervene economically

when people say communism, full communism is meant.

not socialism

when marx talks about the state he refers to the bourgeois state

@kauserlol employees? wut.

dude go read

a marxist state is still a "state" and is communism,

no it isn’t

alot of what a state is, is just semantics

There is lower phase communism, aka Socialism. Transitional phase. Full communism is stateless. Although of course law is enforced by community.

Just like in Anarcho-Communism

but it is how the laws are determined and put in place that is the difference between a Marxist state and a ancom free territory

worker councils/ soviets and the like

Marx states clearly. Lower phase communism is the phase with a socialist state. Full communism implies the withering away of the state

I guess maybe

hey

but there isn’t a definite structure to full communism according to Marx as far as I’m aware

hi there

regarding law making

well how does Kropotkin and Marx differ on law

my issue is that I don’t think Marc defines full communism on a social legal level

at least I’m pretty sure

the main difference between Anarchism and Marxian Socialism is the state