@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 Ehh, it is more of an economic model when you think about it.

fair point but this guy's arguing that it's when people can make choices

and that profit motive has nothing to do with capitalism

*What?*

I'll post the thread in a second

Throw a dictionary at his head, because he clearly dosen't get it.

actually conflicted as to capitalism being an ideology

it’s not really an ideology, but some people treat it as it was

When in actuality, it isn't an ideology.

if capitalism isn't an ideology then what the hell is it

I don’t know. It’s like saying Socialism isn’t an ideology

I mean it has theory and praxis
you can read capitalist theory
you can build a country on capitalist theory

@yung But socialism isn't only an economic theory.

and it has philosophy

Socialism is an economic theory

Communism is more of an ideology

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 In that case, your country would essentially be a giant company.

@yung No?

pretty much just ancap

I think you’re technically right, but let’s say Capitalism has a lot of ideological weight and baggage to it

we see more of a socdem society in the USA

@DA GOMMIE JOO#7269 And we all know that a state like that is impossible.....

I mean it happened in the belgian congo

@yung Not really, it for sure is more subversive than that of socialism and more dominant, but it has little in the form of ideology.

Mhmm maybe you’re right. But what I’m trying to say that the fact people think and argue for and against it in a very ideological way makes it somehow ideology

Not really, they clam it is an ideology, when in reality, it has extremely little to back it as an ideology.

it’s not a sound argument I get it. But Socialism and Communism both are economic models and ideology.

for instance

Maybe saying “neoliberalism” is a better way to suit that ideology

Yet the argument for neoliberalism is the capitalist model itself.

Wouldn’t you somehow agree?

Nope, because neoliberalism is an ideology that primarily uses capitalism.

That goes for 99% of liberals and conservatives.

I don’t get that but I think I get your point

generally

but then Socialism would be an ideology, and say democratic centralism just a model

Democratic centralism? Never heard that one before.

Yes, socialism would be an ideology.

Democratic Centralism is the model of the Soviet Union, or at least how it was supposed to happen

"How it was supposed to happen"

Yhea, let's be serious for a moment, the soviet union was neither democratic, nor was it centralist.