@Firefly slightly but yeah. And seems like the USSR should’ve taken better care of its citizens if their collapse left such a mess

And more people leave now than ever because of internal extremism. It’s not been a constant stream of people leaving since the 1980’s, this uptick has been recent

Are you sure it is not because of 75$ monthly salary and 150$ monthly rent?

@Firefly what country do you live in currently? Also yeah their economy is a disaster because they haven’t recovered from the collapse of the USSR. If they never tried communism in the first place they’d have been a lot better off

They had nothing before USSR

Wastelands

They had entitlement to their own wealth and intellectual property, which is what has led the United States to become the most abundant society in world history

They had no wealth

Opportunity and incentive to create wealth, even abundant wealth, is what every communist and majority socialist society lacks

Awesome, you agreed on zero facts present to you and just pushing propaganda.

I have no time on this.

Good luck

Well you never really answered where you live now, so it’s a little hard to form any points when I can’t make them familiar to you because i have no idea what your culture is

Also it’s not propaganda to believe there’s no opportunity to create wealth in a communist society. You get more reward for becoming a doctor in a capitalist country than a communist country, and if you don’t agree with that basic truth you’re the one who doesn’t believe in facts

People should congregate on race rather than class

People can congregate on whatever they want as long as they pledge allegiance to the nation and culture they’re a citizen of in a free society

Ethno-state is the way too go

Agreed with koifish

Why kokamoe

There’s no point

Yeah, maybe by ingroup outgroup rules, people of certain races work together better

But as a country it doesn’t matter 🤔

@NightTerror6 it’s because kokamoe is an Alinskyite who believes, as alisnky wrote in his book Rules for Radicals, that balkanizing a country’s people is a way to restructure society to become more collective

Lol

That *might* be true

But I’m an individualist

@koifish That's a new fringe belief.

@NightTerror6 I’m also more of an objectivist. But I’m also very conservative so I come at this from a different perspective than most people in here

@Deleted User you’re right, but then most ideas rooted in Marx’s and Hegel’s philosophies are new fringe ideas

@koifish True.

I’m a conservative too 👌🏻

Hegel gey

wut

left conservative?

Hello

hey

@NovaCane no u

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Hello

What do you guys think is most important in the left/right divide?

<@291013733302534144> How so?

I mean what specific stance(s) or value(s) do you consider most polarising or important?