Message from @DA GOMMIE JOO
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and that's not even including soviet production/storage of any machines or vehicles
dont forget the newer technology
that's the US's entire shipments vs soviet raw materials alone
were there any soviet troops armed with thompson machine guns on the front lines?
which greatly helped moscow and stalingrad during winter
any shermans on the eastern front?
No? But many others
Better tanks for sure
the majority of the US's shipped tanks were shermans
4000 out of 7000
So then there was
1300 of the other tanks were M3 lees
and it doesn't say here what the remaining 1700 were
now the sherman is a medium tank
m3 lees were pretty good
so let's compare it with the most-produced soviet tank
so was the m3
the T-34
Like I said, doesnt matter
you said the technology was better
if we compare the tanks, then we can find if those claims are true
I am testing your claim
it bought them time so did winter
Im not saying it won the war
you said that the tanks were better than the soviet ones
America won the war
and?
so just fuck all the stats, america first
Well logically american tanks are better than soviet tanks
let's examine that claim
especially back then
the T-34 weighed 3 tons less than the sherman at 26 tons
And?
the T-34 had a larger gun by 1.3 mm
Was it more resistant?
let me see here
it lists a range from 13 to 108 mm for the sherman
let's say about 60 mm
that sound fair?
A direct comparison is rife with issues. Simply put, the tanks were designed around different philosophies and uses. The Sherman was more robust from a mechanical standpoint; the T-34 was an atrocious mechanical contraption. Each design was improved by sub-marks through its history and both remained in active service around the world well into the 1960s and 1970s (and even later in limited appearances with the T-34 in Africa, for example).
Addressing your specific request:
Survivability - call it even. Both were typical of the time period. The Shermans infamously brewed up due to inadequate fire prevention measures with ammunition storage that was addressed in later marks. The T-34 and its vaunted frontal sloped armor was largely impervious to direct front shots, but if penetrated was just as likely to catch fire or explode.