But

If you’re already feeling that, it’s probably not going to work out like that

Women don’t want a man trying to change them

Deep down you’ll always want to change her

If even for the better

But regardless, she won’t appreciate it

You're right

I know 😃

Just lookin out for ya brother

That's not what I wanted to hear because she's honestly really great aside really great aside from being a fatty

And it's not even that bad. Probably 20-30 pounds lost would have her looking GREAT

But I mean you're right dude. If she doesn't wanna improve on her own it's a reflection on a lot.of shit

It's your job as the man in the relationship to lead

Take her by the hand and guide her

Don't just give up if she's truly great

Trust me. @Fash Dragon trust me, there's a million thin chicks out there that aren't worth a damn

If she isn't willing to take your gentle guidance, you can move on

You got a point haha

But I wouldn't discount her completely m

That's more or less what I'm thinking

If my husband and I had based our relationship choice on appearance alone instead of our chemistry and shared interests, we wouldn't be together

And he has since overhauled his diet and I've gotten literal surgery to help me stop drinking

He losing weight and I'm getting sober. That's what a relationship is. A team.

The modern standard is so bent toward consumerism, even of PEOPLE. If they don't meet all of our checklist points, we just throw them away? That's bullshit.

And @FashyGoy1488 may be right, perhaps her body type is a reflection of how she feels about herself, but that could also evolve in the course of a relationship. I'm talking short term. If she isn't willing to pull her weight (no pun intended) move on.

She's literally the closest thing I have ever found to a big tiddy goth gf

Of course she probably doesn't care about herself. Who among us did before we came here?

I sure as fuck didn't.

I'm not guaranteeing you she will change. Fuck, I really don't even expect her to, honestly. But I don't know her. And neither does anyone else here. If you feel you can connect and have good chemistry, it's worth at least attempting to lead her in the right direction. Trad guys always want to talk about leading a normie woman down the right path and making her a wife, but if anything deviates even slightly from their checklist they cut and run. Here's your chance, buddy.

You make a lot.of really good points

I think that's good advice. And our chemistry is FANTASTIC

that's honestly the only reason I've stuck around this long

Chemistry is imperative. Anything else can be modified with gentle guidance over time.

If you need help on how to nudge her in the right direction, seriously hit up my husband @parrott . It's certainly insane to throw a real human connection away over some pounds of flesh.

Any tips

Like obviously you're a woman that's done a bit of self improvement

Set the example is number one, obviously. Express concern for her health, never address the weight. Talk about how her body needs to be healthy for her future children.

Encourage her STRONGLY to participate in physical fitness with you, but start out slow.

COOK TOGETHER. MAKE IT FUN.

Find out her favorite foods and give them a healthy remix that you guys can make together.

Obviously she has low self esteem or something. Find ways to build that up. Subtly, not cringe style.