Message from @Firefly

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2018-01-21 21:02:05 UTC  

Your tradition will change. Your ideals switch. You will comply with the course of things. .

2018-01-21 21:02:24 UTC  

Well what if tradition works lol

2018-01-21 21:02:41 UTC  

It works. And changes.

2018-01-21 21:02:52 UTC  

But it doesn’t change

2018-01-21 21:02:53 UTC  

Lol

2018-01-21 21:02:58 UTC  

That is why it is tradition

2018-01-21 21:04:04 UTC  

Everything change. Tradition change too.

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2018-01-21 21:06:48 UTC  

Even Jewish most reactionary offspring of tradition like christianity and islam change.

2018-01-21 21:07:16 UTC  

But if tradition changes then it’s no longer tradition

2018-01-21 21:07:33 UTC  

Then it is another tradition.

2018-01-21 21:07:46 UTC  

But then that tradition can change

2018-01-21 21:08:02 UTC  

Traditionalist thinking doesn't change as fast as tradition itself.

2018-01-21 21:08:20 UTC  

Taking away one tradition you need to put another in place.

2018-01-21 21:08:39 UTC  

But why does tradition need to change

2018-01-21 21:08:46 UTC  

What exactly is wrong with tradition

2018-01-21 21:09:24 UTC  

Remember kids

2018-01-21 21:09:26 UTC  

Tradition is a creation of society which is a from of matter that changes constantly and always does.

2018-01-21 21:09:32 UTC  

Dirt

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2018-01-21 21:10:31 UTC  

Dirt never changes

2018-01-21 21:10:48 UTC  

It always does.

2018-01-21 21:11:03 UTC  

There are billions of processes in dirt.

2018-01-21 21:11:21 UTC  

The problem I see with this reasoning is that you can’t force change

2018-01-21 21:11:49 UTC  

If tradition naturally changes over time then why should we force it to change

2018-01-21 21:11:53 UTC  

It always changes itself. There is no need of interaction or force.

2018-01-21 21:12:01 UTC  

Ok

2018-01-21 21:12:10 UTC  

So why should we change if it’s natural

2018-01-21 21:12:12 UTC  

We should not but we can.

2018-01-21 21:12:43 UTC  

Well the way I see it is that Traditionalism is just certain limits but also a way to continue to control the populace strictly

2018-01-21 21:13:01 UTC  

You can't do some things but you have the ability to do others without much effort.

2018-01-21 21:13:26 UTC  

Traditionalist societies are not as flexible as others and reform is much harder to accomplish

2018-01-21 21:13:27 UTC  

But hey

2018-01-21 21:13:34 UTC  

At least you can conscript the populace

2018-01-21 21:13:48 UTC  

I’m not entirely sure you understand what tradition is

2018-01-21 21:14:07 UTC  

Tradition is usually there because it’s what works

2018-01-21 21:14:19 UTC  

If a better way is found, then it will change

2018-01-21 21:14:20 UTC  

That is that

2018-01-21 21:15:07 UTC  

Stalin had to put back the law against homofobia because of the pressure. Russians did not want gays.

2018-01-21 21:15:27 UTC  

There were alot of traditional or the norm things that were proven wrong with actual evidence but the church or nation didn't say "ok that is correct" until years after exploited.

2018-01-21 21:15:30 UTC  

Now leftiest do not compromise.

2018-01-21 21:15:56 UTC  

@Firefly That's a lie.

2018-01-21 21:15:58 UTC  

So conversion from old to new is slower