Yes

We are moving forward

@Brickiest Brick the alternative is funding isis

yes

And pretty much building an amazing superpower

we should stay out of syria

the alternative is not going into the middle east in the first place

no one is democracy there

now we're forced to fight

Again, not a debate. The western world as an entity has directly contributed to the strife and degradation of the rest of the globe

So we're profiteering scumbags

Again

Yes we built a huge as state

i would disagree, only the united states

@Comrade Skeltal our allies become rich

Very successful, but at the expense of everyone else

so it benefits our "puppets" at least

No, but it doesnt

This is a pretty civil discussion

well the problem from my perspedtion, Europe is the one who pay for your shits in the middle east

It’s not a dead server

the rest of the west really isn't doing any harm

just the US

Again, 70s - early 2000s saw the economies of all the nations we subjugated and broke doen national barriers in

Fall apart

in fact the rest of the west is fucking crumbling

And it led to the 08 crisis

And, no all of the western states

Are implicated

They all have corporations who're invested in the same places we are.

well yeah

Only difference is China joined the bullshit

we should stop forcing our economic system and force our political system instead

got it

what

No, your political system is ass

No it’s not

how is democracy ass

Yes it is

You wanna see a shit political system

how about the prospect of not forcing our way of life onto others