and Muhammeds

look at the UK labor party under Blair

pretty much skipped arm and arm with Dubya

x)

nice jolly imperialist venture one more time

true. could not agree more

so should we embrace vanguard party, since it is almost only thing that worked 😛

and reject all other failed experminets

including....anarchism 😛

The party will just self critique right 😛

hehehe

t. Chariman Mao

*chairman

well everyone had that idea, but it did not work

from tito to mao

my problem with communism is that is just restructures the class system and creates a class of bureaucrats

they all became alienated from workers people, or workers people from them

pretty much that too

so, is solution some kind of soviets (council of workers?)

it fails to address the issue of alienation

I mean yeah

but we need one political party to implement that

forming a consensus doesn't fucking matter

Not sure if I understood, so still one party - vanaguard who will implement soviet councils?

well I agree with Marx

we need to transition into this framework

we can't just wake up tommorow and have this

we need to focus on empowering people and restructuring our system of production to have more vertically structured and ensure equal ownership of the means of production

on top of this people have to be educated

we need to show people that pooling our resources and cooperating

is the most effective means of managing them

but again the problem of the left

its hard to conceptualize the how

i think the most damaging thing is that everyone thinks communism is authoritarian and immediately dismisses it without even knowing what it is

tbh, that does not sound like anarchism to me, more like some kind of syndicalism and luxemburigsm 😛 I might be wrong tho

It isn't

tbh anarchy isn't without leadership

just unjustified hierarchy

there just isn't a justified reason why one party should be the "vanguard"

and it alienates people from political discourse

when we need to make it more accessible