@Queef Madagascar Cuba is a "shithole"? Is that why they have one of the best healthcare systems in all of Latin America? Or how about the fact that they offer free university-level education? How about the fact that homelessness and job insecurity are virtually non-existent? What about the lung cancer vaccine they recently developed? And all under a bullshit embargo that was imposed on them decades ago. Damn, what a shithole.

stalin was great

@Deleted User To be fair, you don't know for sure whether or not those claims are truthful thanks to cuba's shut in situation, but then again, I haven't heard anything that disagree's with that statement yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oNO8uFc7M0

woah such great healthcare

https://borgenproject.org/causes-of-poverty-in-cuba/

>cuba is a poor country that struggles to provide housing

you know what they say, what you pay for is what you get

https://theconversation.com/is-the-cuban-healthcare-system-really-as-great-as-people-claim-69526

communist countries are famous for lying to their citizens, they lied about the gulags and they lied about the west

cuba is fudging their stats

so i watched a bunch of richard wolff and his socialism explanations

interesting guy and he articulates it very well

lol hes a massive loon

he believes in surplus labour

http://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.ca/p/the-labour-theory-of-value-as-presented.html

hes an actor saying his lines

youd have to be retarded to take him seriously

Those articles you posted were highly unreliable, and I could easily counter them with articles of my own. As for Professor Wolff, he's a good economist and I enjoy his lectures. Also, not accepting the LTV is pretty primitive.

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here's the thing about wolff

he is very good at articulating what he believes

except that was he believes is shit

You must not like mathematics and common sense, Queef.

lol WHAT

its common sense that labour has no bearing on what a buyer values

i have listened to wolff and from what i know about the free market, much of what he says makes no sense with all things considered

look even marx contridicted himself in volume 3

for example the idea of surplus value and the whole labor theory of value is, on a logical basis in the modern world, pretty nonsensical

value is subjective

perhaps it would have been better suited for back then, before the industrial revolution

before mass-production was a thing

it wasnt coined by marx, smith and ricardo used before the neoclassicals stopped using it

this was 100 years before

well it's true

even mainstream economists at the time didnt use it

Actually, it isn't. The Neo-Marxians made it pretty clear that the LTV is, in fact, a thing. And much of the criticism directed at it is based on misreadings and assumptions.

lol what

the neo marxists like in uni dont even claim it

The LTV has been elaborated on and tweaked by numerous economists since it's formulation.