Message from @fannybandit

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2018-03-06 06:04:31 UTC  

there's more than 1% that don't need to work. Well depends on what country.

2018-03-06 06:04:33 UTC  

How about homelessness and death?

2018-03-06 06:04:36 UTC  

Of course not in the world.

2018-03-06 06:04:44 UTC  

to want to work, be useful, or reach self actualization doesnt at equate to wage labour

2018-03-06 06:04:48 UTC  

1% of the world.

2018-03-06 06:04:50 UTC  

That's what we turned it into.

2018-03-06 06:05:01 UTC  

Not all of us turned into that.

2018-03-06 06:05:01 UTC  

And it is infact a form of coerced labour

2018-03-06 06:05:18 UTC  

Not literal slavery, but coerced nonetheless

2018-03-06 06:05:31 UTC  

There are people who either can't or won't work...they are homeless or on disability...unless they're wealthy.

2018-03-06 06:05:43 UTC  

I don't want to work just for the money, simply because I don't really need money. I want to work if it benefitted others.

2018-03-06 06:05:47 UTC  

Coerced labor is slavery.

2018-03-06 06:05:54 UTC  

It's a nice way of saying forced.

2018-03-06 06:06:04 UTC  

coerced labor is labor you perform, under coercion.

2018-03-06 06:06:11 UTC  

It isnt intrinsically slavery

2018-03-06 06:06:17 UTC  

because you technically have a false choice

2018-03-06 06:06:19 UTC  

Just like signing paperwork under duress.

2018-03-06 06:06:22 UTC  

"Work or starve"

2018-03-06 06:06:26 UTC  

Exactly.

2018-03-06 06:06:28 UTC  

yes but if you're a capitalist,

2018-03-06 06:06:29 UTC  

That's slavery.

2018-03-06 06:06:34 UTC  

you pretend thats a choice

2018-03-06 06:06:43 UTC  

Which obviously its not,

2018-03-06 06:06:48 UTC  

but I image E is a capitalist

2018-03-06 06:06:51 UTC  

or wants to be one

2018-03-06 06:06:59 UTC  

He wants capitalism because he is wealthy.

2018-03-06 06:07:07 UTC  

It's within his interests.

2018-03-06 06:07:13 UTC  

Not the people around him.

2018-03-06 06:07:26 UTC  

The majority do not want capitalism.

2018-03-06 06:07:27 UTC  

But thats why I mentioned work doesnt have to be wage labour

2018-03-06 06:07:39 UTC  

Which is exactly why I want to work for others. Out of my own interests.

2018-03-06 06:07:42 UTC  

to say people "Want to work" isnt to be simplified to them working to not starve

2018-03-06 06:07:52 UTC  

Simply because Im a selfish capitalist pig of course

2018-03-06 06:07:55 UTC  

they want to work, because people want to feel useful

2018-03-06 06:08:03 UTC  

It's slavery if any person does not want to work.

2018-03-06 06:08:12 UTC  

I wouldn't call it

2018-03-06 06:08:14 UTC  

that

2018-03-06 06:08:26 UTC  

Just like you wouldn't call government tyrannical.

2018-03-06 06:08:27 UTC  

That's just life. You have to work.

2018-03-06 06:08:27 UTC  

Well I think there is a relevant distinction to be made between coerced labor and slavery

2018-03-06 06:08:36 UTC  

and you dont have to work