Message from @Diablo
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lol
actual question
i dont kno much
Sure there are really good people who'd be a doctor instead but there's going to be a very low amount
this is why I say socialism assumes a very high number of resources and/or money.
well first you need capitalism
And that people act the same way
capitalism makes massive infrastructure and resources, then you would transition to socialism
@Diablo Don't take what he says about human nature for granted, there is evidence to suggest the contrary and if you accept Humans are the way he does then the argument for Socialism becomes much harder to justify.
well capitalism is easy to understand
Again, you're assuming the rich are bad and selfish and completely take every penny they get. They don't. They're the ones providing these jobs and paying their employees with their own money.
so humans adapt to it better
No just because things are easy to understand doesnt mean they can adapt better.
in some countries, people have a wage as low as $0.37
It's not about adaption since we've already adapted to this.
It's not really about human adaption since basically every species works hard to gain and to get pleasured
And that's typically through competition
And yes those are very unfortunate
which is why socialism would be even worse in countries that suffer poverty
capitalism is really easy to understand but over time poverty increases, the rich get richer, and the workers have less opportunities
What? No? Like I said the rich give out these jobs.
And there are plenty of jobs.
Some jobs require education some dont
In order to not be poor you need a job
Mr E has an interpretation of the world whereby corporations are benevolent and help the poor.
I mean
deluded comes to mind.
They do
Yeah, god them chinese kids totally agree.
Am I wrong that the rich give jobs to people?
You mean communist china?
well he wouldnt give out his jobs for free, he wants workers that are willing to work for him, he also wants to cut money to earn more profit
China the country that isnt capitalist?
One, its not communist, two the capitalist market exists in China.
in capitalism, the only reason why he gives out good wages is because of competition
thats it
Mr E, do you think in China, the Apple Corporation are owned by the government?
corpoartions give higher wages to compete over workers
China is governed by the Communist Party of China