you strip their country of origin of some of their best or most well off people

Abdul the goat farmer isnt gonna migrate

but Mohammed the urbanite with an actual economic worth might

and the uni students too

if you are a socialist and are pro-humanity and care about other countries you should be against immigration

>we didnt have this problem 40 years ago
because your demographic was better

now it's bad and you can't do anything about it other than immigration pretty much

and why do you think our demographic was better

@Swiss Dave many countries have a big "surplus" of people

we have a deficit of them

its a natural balancing act

im trying my best not to get angry right now

you did not tackle my actual point

if more bengali come here it will be better for both europe and bangladesh

If all of the bengalese people with business, money, education move from bengal to here, it's only good for us

prove that point then

and very bad for bengal

if those are people with the greatest worth why do they do so bad when coming here

and are the lower middle class at best

it's bad for bengal

they do bad because integration is difficult

no i dont accept your point at all

you would have to present me some data on this

it's also a matter of common sense that the poor/uneducated (poor and uneducated are basically synonymous) are not the ones with the resources to do something as huge as migrating from Bengal to Europe

@Deleted User bruh

i dont think at all that people who come en masse to Europe are vital to the development of these countries at all

Migrating from a north african country to Europe costs several thousands

of euros

i see that point raised now and then and you didnt introduce it to me but I have never seen any data attached to it tbh

illegaly immigrating from a north african country to europe literal costs thousands of euros

Faruk the grain grower doesnt have the resources for that

also look at all the people who come to Europe through studies

by coming to Europe to study in Uni

and stay here

that's also a negative for their original country

Why the tories won

losing brilliant minds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight

hundreds of thousands of people aren't the "brilliant" minds

brain drain happens and is separate of mass migration

It's a phenomenon