Message from @supermodel ruben
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Where you from?
Holland
@Valkyrie---1944 That’s what I’m saying, it’s too dangerous to stay between the line of Socialist economics and Market economics
Either do one or the other
Or mix it sensibly
Our market economics lead to socialist social government
Gap between the rich and poor is relatively small
Mhmm a Socialist government isn’t what we have in neoliberal economics though
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Gap between poor and rich is increasing
while poverty is modestly decreasing
although it hasn’t in the last two years
Yes but in the netherlands its relatively less
Its not america
Yes of clurse
*course
I find the dutch system perfect tbh
But be careful at talking about a Socialist government in market economies
Yes its social docratic
Or social liberal
Yes
But its close to that sinthesis
Synthesis
because socialist state for me means dictatorship of the proletariat
Atleast closest on a global scale
I don’t know much about the Netherlands
but Social Democracy is in decline since the 1980s
In what sense
To be honest I blame American poverty levels on increase immigration levels
I wanted to say then ut a bigot but you seem nice
In the amount of services they serve, on how much they win, on how many Social Democracies there are..
Ah matbe
Maybe*
I dont know
I know that it functions pretty well heee
@supermodel ruben that type of talk destroys the left
Social Democracy was a concession by Capitalist nations, when looking at the social services granted by the SU to its citizens
@Valkyrie---1944 type of talk about immigration, which is very very small, destroys the right
As soon as the SU collapsed, scandinavian social democracies reverted back to privatization, if u notice