Message from @Valkyrie---1944

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2018-04-10 13:17:19 UTC  

Gap between poor and rich is increasing

2018-04-10 13:17:28 UTC  

while poverty is modestly decreasing

2018-04-10 13:17:37 UTC  

although it hasn’t in the last two years

2018-04-10 13:17:51 UTC  

Yes but in the netherlands its relatively less

2018-04-10 13:17:58 UTC  

Its not america

2018-04-10 13:18:03 UTC  

Yes of clurse

2018-04-10 13:18:11 UTC  

*course

2018-04-10 13:18:26 UTC  

I find the dutch system perfect tbh

2018-04-10 13:18:42 UTC  

But be careful at talking about a Socialist government in market economies

2018-04-10 13:18:57 UTC  

Yes its social docratic

2018-04-10 13:19:00 UTC  

Democratic

2018-04-10 13:19:03 UTC  

Or social liberal

2018-04-10 13:19:07 UTC  

Yes

2018-04-10 13:19:12 UTC  

But its close to that sinthesis

2018-04-10 13:19:15 UTC  

Synthesis

2018-04-10 13:19:21 UTC  

because socialist state for me means dictatorship of the proletariat

2018-04-10 13:19:28 UTC  

Atleast closest on a global scale

2018-04-10 13:19:45 UTC  

I don’t know much about the Netherlands

2018-04-10 13:20:00 UTC  

but Social Democracy is in decline since the 1980s

2018-04-10 13:20:06 UTC  

In what sense

2018-04-10 13:20:35 UTC  

To be honest I blame American poverty levels on increase immigration levels

2018-04-10 13:20:57 UTC  

I wanted to say then ut a bigot but you seem nice

2018-04-10 13:21:07 UTC  

In the amount of services they serve, on how much they win, on how many Social Democracies there are..

2018-04-10 13:21:19 UTC  

Ah matbe

2018-04-10 13:21:22 UTC  

Maybe*

2018-04-10 13:21:24 UTC  

I dont know

2018-04-10 13:21:32 UTC  

I know that it functions pretty well heee

2018-04-10 13:21:45 UTC  

@supermodel ruben that type of talk destroys the left

2018-04-10 13:21:50 UTC  

Social Democracy was a concession by Capitalist nations, when looking at the social services granted by the SU to its citizens

2018-04-10 13:22:12 UTC  

@Valkyrie---1944 type of talk about immigration, which is very very small, destroys the right

2018-04-10 13:22:38 UTC  

As soon as the SU collapsed, scandinavian social democracies reverted back to privatization, if u notice

2018-04-10 13:23:19 UTC  

People who think immigration is expensive or a big weight to states and economics are not aware of the scale of nations economies

2018-04-10 13:23:24 UTC  

Also I don’t know what scientific correlation there is between immigration and poverty, especially in the US were immigration is not so rampant

2018-04-10 13:23:55 UTC  

@supermodel ruben and if immigrating isn't tied down then increasee poverty gonna happen which it is thanks to globalism

2018-04-10 13:24:05 UTC  

Thats complete bollocks

2018-04-10 13:24:08 UTC  

@supermodel ruben Also Immigrants very often cost less to states because you don’t have to pay their whole childhood and all the spending that goes with that

2018-04-10 13:24:15 UTC  

Also yes

2018-04-10 13:24:23 UTC  

Lets take the netherlands as an example

2018-04-10 13:25:12 UTC  

try this video

2018-04-10 13:25:28 UTC  

just for some counter arguments