Message from @Valkyrie---1944
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Gap between poor and rich is increasing
while poverty is modestly decreasing
although it hasn’t in the last two years
Yes but in the netherlands its relatively less
Its not america
Yes of clurse
*course
I find the dutch system perfect tbh
But be careful at talking about a Socialist government in market economies
Yes its social docratic
Democratic
Or social liberal
Yes
But its close to that sinthesis
Synthesis
because socialist state for me means dictatorship of the proletariat
Atleast closest on a global scale
I don’t know much about the Netherlands
but Social Democracy is in decline since the 1980s
In what sense
I wanted to say then ut a bigot but you seem nice
In the amount of services they serve, on how much they win, on how many Social Democracies there are..
Ah matbe
Maybe*
I dont know
I know that it functions pretty well heee
@supermodel ruben that type of talk destroys the left
Social Democracy was a concession by Capitalist nations, when looking at the social services granted by the SU to its citizens
@Valkyrie---1944 type of talk about immigration, which is very very small, destroys the right
As soon as the SU collapsed, scandinavian social democracies reverted back to privatization, if u notice
People who think immigration is expensive or a big weight to states and economics are not aware of the scale of nations economies
Also I don’t know what scientific correlation there is between immigration and poverty, especially in the US were immigration is not so rampant
@supermodel ruben and if immigrating isn't tied down then increasee poverty gonna happen which it is thanks to globalism
Thats complete bollocks
@supermodel ruben Also Immigrants very often cost less to states because you don’t have to pay their whole childhood and all the spending that goes with that
Also yes
Lets take the netherlands as an example
try this video
just for some counter arguments