the real problem in Venezuela is that there is constant fight between corporate powers and State policy. Chavez refused to diversify his economy even though an oil crash was to be expected, because he had his Chavismo in mind, a type of reform Socialism/Social Democracy. And it’s also proven to have been sabotaged by big business.(commodity shortages)

I think the real problem in Venezuela is that they aren’t Socialist enough. This is not to say that Socialism will 100% bring about good results, but being pretty Socialist while still having 80% of your wealth in private hands is too much of a contradiction

It can’t work

Thats basically the netjerlands

That depends on proof @yung and if you will you do need to hold back resources in case of such crisis

Fact is if Venezuela were Socialist, it wouldn’t have suffered a market crash

market crashes are a fact of Capitalism, not nature

Ah

Increase socialism will drive the market down and it will inflate the market to a point that a bubble exist

@supermodel ruben
I’m not an expert but I would guess that the Netherlands and its leadership isn’t so confrontational to national business and international trade

No

We arnt

But

We have almost no poverty

Amazing social resources

Etc

Where you from?

Holland

@Valkyrie---1944 That’s what I’m saying, it’s too dangerous to stay between the line of Socialist economics and Market economics

Either do one or the other

Or mix it sensibly

Our market economics lead to socialist social government

Gap between the rich and poor is relatively small

Mhmm a Socialist government isn’t what we have in neoliberal economics though

Etc etc

Gap between poor and rich is increasing

while poverty is modestly decreasing

although it hasn’t in the last two years

Yes but in the netherlands its relatively less

Its not america

Yes of clurse

*course

I find the dutch system perfect tbh

But be careful at talking about a Socialist government in market economies

Yes its social docratic

Democratic

Or social liberal

Yes

But its close to that sinthesis

Synthesis

because socialist state for me means dictatorship of the proletariat