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2018-04-15 16:35:15 UTC  

Sex

2018-04-15 16:41:19 UTC  

I do not think the word poverty should be used when theres free healthcare, free tuition, government funding for people w/e a solid income, government funding for people with kids, government funding for housing, social housing, etc

2018-04-15 16:41:27 UTC  

But thats semantics

2018-04-15 16:42:42 UTC  

I think poverty is an apt word for people who really struggle to get by, feed their family, are homeless ecc.

2018-04-15 16:43:56 UTC  

Well the number of homeless people in the netherlands is almost neglectable

2018-04-15 16:44:01 UTC  

But then there’s some who are in poverty because they didn’t make the right choices in life, or are simply living off welfare because it’s easier than just getting a job.

2018-04-15 16:44:04 UTC  

As in it is terrible it exists but so small

2018-04-15 16:44:16 UTC  

Not all people in poverty are victims of the system.

2018-04-15 16:44:58 UTC  

Well studies atleast show that many people in relative poverty in these countries dont know how to spend their money efficiently

2018-04-15 16:45:47 UTC  

the state does not give them enough money

2018-04-15 16:45:58 UTC  

For instance in you have to get by on 900ish, which is the minimum the dutch government considers legitimate, and you smoke away 200 thats your own fault

2018-04-15 16:46:11 UTC  

The poor don't know how to manage money hmm 🤔 🤔 🤔

2018-04-15 16:46:23 UTC  

The state shouldn’t have to give them so much money, really.

2018-04-15 16:46:27 UTC  

900 a fucking month? im moving to the netherlands

2018-04-15 16:46:30 UTC  

I agree

2018-04-15 16:46:39 UTC  

900 a month should he enougj per individual

2018-04-15 16:46:51 UTC  

Im not saying its fun or comfortable

2018-04-15 16:46:52 UTC  

150 a month in the UK

2018-04-15 16:46:56 UTC  

for me anyway

2018-04-15 16:47:05 UTC  

For when you do not have a job?

2018-04-15 16:47:09 UTC  

yeah

2018-04-15 16:47:13 UTC  

Wtf

2018-04-15 16:47:46 UTC  

You are not getting 900 btw

2018-04-15 16:47:50 UTC  

Its 600ish

2018-04-15 16:48:01 UTC  

900 is considered to be a minimum income

2018-04-15 16:48:03 UTC  

when you first claim it you have to get an advance because otherwise you will have to wait 6 weeks, then you are stuck paying that off for 6 months too

2018-04-15 16:48:18 UTC  

does that include housing tho?

2018-04-15 16:48:27 UTC  

Yes

2018-04-15 16:48:33 UTC  

In that you have to pay for it yes

2018-04-15 16:48:48 UTC  

Social housing appartments in cities are around 250-450

2018-04-15 16:48:55 UTC  

Yes

2018-04-15 16:48:57 UTC  

thats pretty cheap

2018-04-15 16:49:02 UTC  

I pay 370

2018-04-15 16:49:06 UTC  

could easy live on that

2018-04-15 16:49:08 UTC  

For a student room?

2018-04-15 16:49:11 UTC  

yes

2018-04-15 16:49:18 UTC  

Social housing is a really really good deal here

2018-04-15 16:49:34 UTC  

But it is what it is you know..

2018-04-15 16:49:34 UTC  

I pay more for my small room then a family with low income pays for a house

2018-04-15 16:49:58 UTC  

35 m^2

2018-04-15 16:50:03 UTC  

for two people