Let me ask a very fair question

In the situation of complete communism

Where does the capital for social wellfare structures comes from

Communism has to be post-scarcity, meaning that you would have eliminated problems on distribution and production of goods. It’s a gift economy. You wouldn’t even have capital

@supermodel ruben btw where I live in The Hague, although I know less than you when it comes to NL, it’s a pretty shitty neighborhood, with very clear cut poverty. Not a fun place to go around at night at all. And it’s pretty clear to me that the Hague is a relatively rich city

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I do not think the word poverty should be used when theres free healthcare, free tuition, government funding for people w/e a solid income, government funding for people with kids, government funding for housing, social housing, etc

But thats semantics

I think poverty is an apt word for people who really struggle to get by, feed their family, are homeless ecc.

Well the number of homeless people in the netherlands is almost neglectable

But then there’s some who are in poverty because they didn’t make the right choices in life, or are simply living off welfare because it’s easier than just getting a job.

As in it is terrible it exists but so small

Not all people in poverty are victims of the system.

Well studies atleast show that many people in relative poverty in these countries dont know how to spend their money efficiently

the state does not give them enough money

For instance in you have to get by on 900ish, which is the minimum the dutch government considers legitimate, and you smoke away 200 thats your own fault

The poor don't know how to manage money hmm 🤔 🤔 🤔

The state shouldn’t have to give them so much money, really.

900 a fucking month? im moving to the netherlands

I agree

900 a month should he enougj per individual

Im not saying its fun or comfortable

150 a month in the UK

for me anyway

For when you do not have a job?

yeah

Wtf

You are not getting 900 btw

Its 600ish

900 is considered to be a minimum income

when you first claim it you have to get an advance because otherwise you will have to wait 6 weeks, then you are stuck paying that off for 6 months too

does that include housing tho?

Yes

In that you have to pay for it yes

Social housing appartments in cities are around 250-450

Yes

thats pretty cheap

I pay 370

could easy live on that

For a student room?

yes