Message from @supermodel ruben
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In the situation of complete communism
Where does the capital for social wellfare structures comes from
Communism has to be post-scarcity, meaning that you would have eliminated problems on distribution and production of goods. It’s a gift economy. You wouldn’t even have capital
@supermodel ruben btw where I live in The Hague, although I know less than you when it comes to NL, it’s a pretty shitty neighborhood, with very clear cut poverty. Not a fun place to go around at night at all. And it’s pretty clear to me that the Hague is a relatively rich city
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I do not think the word poverty should be used when theres free healthcare, free tuition, government funding for people w/e a solid income, government funding for people with kids, government funding for housing, social housing, etc
But thats semantics
I think poverty is an apt word for people who really struggle to get by, feed their family, are homeless ecc.
Well the number of homeless people in the netherlands is almost neglectable
But then there’s some who are in poverty because they didn’t make the right choices in life, or are simply living off welfare because it’s easier than just getting a job.
As in it is terrible it exists but so small
Not all people in poverty are victims of the system.
Well studies atleast show that many people in relative poverty in these countries dont know how to spend their money efficiently
the state does not give them enough money
For instance in you have to get by on 900ish, which is the minimum the dutch government considers legitimate, and you smoke away 200 thats your own fault
The poor don't know how to manage money hmm 🤔 🤔 🤔
The state shouldn’t have to give them so much money, really.
900 a fucking month? im moving to the netherlands
I agree
900 a month should he enougj per individual
150 a month in the UK
for me anyway
For when you do not have a job?
yeah
Wtf
You are not getting 900 btw
Its 600ish
900 is considered to be a minimum income
when you first claim it you have to get an advance because otherwise you will have to wait 6 weeks, then you are stuck paying that off for 6 months too
does that include housing tho?
Yes
In that you have to pay for it yes
Social housing appartments in cities are around 250-450
Yes
thats pretty cheap
I pay 370
could easy live on that
For a student room?
yes
Social housing is a really really good deal here