Message from @When Things Aren't Right Go Left
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In numerous cases other than spain as well
I really hate to point fingers but that's the truth
And in reality, trotksy probably would have caused the union to collapse, due to his fanaticism that blinded him, and the probability that he would not have been able to solve the utter fucking mess that was the soviet political system that was tearing the country apart.
It is unlikely that trotsky could have won the spanish civil war, because the republicans, anarchists, and other factions hated each other, and it infamously led to the republicans disarming other groups and using their weapons for their cause, unless trotsky intervined directly, the civil war would have still been won by the fascists, and if he did intervene directly, then I doubt that hitler, or the league would have allowed it.
>US and USSR remain allies after WWII
>purge, killings never happen
.US sees no reason to see communism or socialism as evil; this plus the extra money available from the cold war never happening could have pushed the US to the left (but probably not to become communist any time within the 20th century)
>USSR still pushes to spread communism, but it is a very different communism from what we see in "communist" countries in our timeline and the US sees no reason to intervene at this time, allowing it to spread more freely without intervention from any major powers
-USSR caves into pressure to have a more democratic multiparty state, but does not dissolve the USSR
-The US and USSR are both better off fiscally, again since the spending on the cold war never happened
Lmao
Trotsky would've been worse than that paranoid psychopath I'm sure
Mhm
I completely agree Staln's purges were very good for communist PR
@When Things Aren't Right Go Left What? If WW2 started, it probably would have been because of trotsky and his attempts to spread communism, that would lead to the league or hitler responding violently, causing the USSR to be invaded, speculate how you will about how that would have gone down, but regardless, even if the exact same events happened, it is likely that the cold war would have still happened, there would be no way that the US would ever see marxism as a good thing, and would do anything to stop it.
Even if the soviet Union did collapse under Trotsky we would still be better fucking off today
How would you know?
@Deleted User I don't see your point Nazis would've still lost
@When Things Aren't Right Go Left How would you know?
@Deleted User the USSR would have gained strong allies and perhaps WW2 would have been shorter.
@When Things Aren't Right Go Left Again, how would you know?
@Deleted User From most of the sources I have read, Stalin was an absolutely awful military leader. He attempted to make every single major military go through him, but when the Nazi's invaded he barricaded himself away for over a week, leaving the army commanders unable to respond to the invasion in any organised fashion. On the other hand Trotsky was extremely competent and had considerable experience, having founded and commanded the Red Army during the Great Revolutionary War.
Relax ladies, you're both equal
Equally retarded
Also the best of the soviet military wouldn't of been purged under trotsky
Stalin left the USSR's military in a shit-tier state after purging it's best and brightest
??? fake mr.e
@When Things Aren't Right Go Left Anx shat sources are those?
And if the military wasn't purged, when woulden't he more likely that they would have betrayed the union?
ure mom cD
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@Deleted User What's with your creepy obession with Stalin?
Are you nazbol or something?
he gay 4 him
@When Things Aren't Right Go Left Do not diverge, stay on topic.
@Deleted User Have a look at Robert Services books he's one of the many historians who agree with me
You love Stalin long time?
@When Things Aren't Right Go Left So are you not able to back your own claims then? You just act like any other person and just screech "LOOK IT UP! IT ISN'T BECAUSE I CAN'T BACK MY CLAIMS, BUT IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST IGNORTANT!"?
I don't know what you mean exactly
Care to explain why you love stalin so much?
Fiegning ignorance I see....
I'm waiting
I've answered your questions this entire time
@buyXRBpls Go onto the third postion server he's probably embarassing himself right now