Message from @Orc

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2018-05-01 23:05:07 UTC  

Dab on em

2018-05-01 23:05:10 UTC  

Ha got em!

2018-05-01 23:05:18 UTC  

Is property theft?

2018-05-01 23:05:18 UTC  

Fucking children

2018-05-01 23:05:24 UTC  

Juche should be illegal

2018-05-01 23:05:26 UTC  

@Kingfish Nigga youz a straight B I T C H boiii.

2018-05-01 23:05:37 UTC  
2018-05-01 23:05:50 UTC  

however if you look at china/ussr, they had potentially strong economies, and instead communism murdered/starved millions, and their economies were ruined from the inside

2018-05-01 23:05:53 UTC  

@Dont Ask That's correct, it isn't actually marxist communism at all, it is it's own thing, made for korea because communism in the end is unsubstainable, and will always be subverted by capitalism, and it seems that even that is happening to juche now, since kim jon un is seriously considering peaceful reunification.

2018-05-01 23:05:54 UTC  

I'm not a juche blood

2018-05-01 23:05:54 UTC  

Why do I owe my private property to anyone but myself?

2018-05-01 23:06:07 UTC  

@Kingfish Only on Tuesdays. ;*

2018-05-01 23:06:08 UTC  

Yos

2018-05-01 23:06:16 UTC  

yes exactly rex

2018-05-01 23:06:16 UTC  

Communism worked before basic feudalism/tribalism when there were groups of 13 people roaming around scrounging for berries

2018-05-01 23:06:20 UTC  

it will always fail

2018-05-01 23:06:31 UTC  

What

2018-05-01 23:06:41 UTC  

everyone got berries because they would die otherwise

2018-05-01 23:06:47 UTC  

we've evolved past that

2018-05-01 23:06:52 UTC  

It's the fruit of my labour, why should that be stolen from me and given to less prosperous people?

2018-05-01 23:07:06 UTC  

They died to groups of 13 people who then ate them

2018-05-01 23:07:06 UTC  

@Teddy the community doesn't claim ownership of that good, the worker voluntarily agrees that doing what one is able and taking what one needs is the preferred way of organizing an economy. The worker has the right to do with labor as one chooses and we each choose to do so this way.

2018-05-01 23:07:19 UTC  

which ironically happens in communist societies

2018-05-01 23:07:25 UTC  

@Orc That is a gross oversimplification of life in a hunter-gatherer society and you should feel ashamed.

2018-05-01 23:07:31 UTC  

And that obviously happens in all communist countries, right?

2018-05-01 23:07:45 UTC  

Or does it devolve into a dictatorship really fucking quick

2018-05-01 23:07:48 UTC  

and the workers become the state

2018-05-01 23:07:56 UTC  

and the people become the state

2018-05-01 23:08:07 UTC  

>misunderstanding this hard

2018-05-01 23:08:10 UTC  

What

2018-05-01 23:08:11 UTC  

@Orc Equality wasn't actually present in tribes, people had to work for their meals, which means that the weak who were incapable of gathering food for themselves would have died out, while the stronger ones would get food for themselves, this of course doesn't mean that they wouldn't share or help people in need, but it means that equality as you know it wasn't existent.

2018-05-01 23:08:16 UTC  

>implying I'm misunderstanding

2018-05-01 23:08:21 UTC  

Yes

2018-05-01 23:08:25 UTC  

Are the workers and people not supposed to be the state

2018-05-01 23:08:28 UTC  

Exactly

2018-05-01 23:08:29 UTC  

Not even implying I outright said it

2018-05-01 23:08:37 UTC  

Show me an example of a communist society that was not a dictatorship

2018-05-01 23:08:42 UTC  

and my examples that i gave explains why his "omg capitalists never let communist countries do their own thing" is BTFO

2018-05-01 23:08:43 UTC  

modern day

2018-05-01 23:08:46 UTC  

^

2018-05-01 23:08:50 UTC  

Vietnam