Message from @Orc
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Dab
Oooof
Roasted
Dab on em
Ha got em!
Is property theft?
Fucking children
Juche should be illegal
@Kingfish Nigga youz a straight B I T C H boiii.
@Teddy No
however if you look at china/ussr, they had potentially strong economies, and instead communism murdered/starved millions, and their economies were ruined from the inside
@Dont Ask That's correct, it isn't actually marxist communism at all, it is it's own thing, made for korea because communism in the end is unsubstainable, and will always be subverted by capitalism, and it seems that even that is happening to juche now, since kim jon un is seriously considering peaceful reunification.
I'm not a juche blood
Why do I owe my private property to anyone but myself?
@Kingfish Only on Tuesdays. ;*
Yos
yes exactly rex
Communism worked before basic feudalism/tribalism when there were groups of 13 people roaming around scrounging for berries
it will always fail
What
we've evolved past that
It's the fruit of my labour, why should that be stolen from me and given to less prosperous people?
They died to groups of 13 people who then ate them
@Teddy the community doesn't claim ownership of that good, the worker voluntarily agrees that doing what one is able and taking what one needs is the preferred way of organizing an economy. The worker has the right to do with labor as one chooses and we each choose to do so this way.
which ironically happens in communist societies
@Orc That is a gross oversimplification of life in a hunter-gatherer society and you should feel ashamed.
And that obviously happens in all communist countries, right?
Or does it devolve into a dictatorship really fucking quick
and the workers become the state
and the people become the state
>misunderstanding this hard
What
@Orc Equality wasn't actually present in tribes, people had to work for their meals, which means that the weak who were incapable of gathering food for themselves would have died out, while the stronger ones would get food for themselves, this of course doesn't mean that they wouldn't share or help people in need, but it means that equality as you know it wasn't existent.
>implying I'm misunderstanding
Yes
Are the workers and people not supposed to be the state
Exactly
Not even implying I outright said it
Show me an example of a communist society that was not a dictatorship
and my examples that i gave explains why his "omg capitalists never let communist countries do their own thing" is BTFO