Message from @Orc
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Communism worked before basic feudalism/tribalism when there were groups of 13 people roaming around scrounging for berries
it will always fail
What
everyone got berries because they would die otherwise
we've evolved past that
It's the fruit of my labour, why should that be stolen from me and given to less prosperous people?
They died to groups of 13 people who then ate them
@Teddy the community doesn't claim ownership of that good, the worker voluntarily agrees that doing what one is able and taking what one needs is the preferred way of organizing an economy. The worker has the right to do with labor as one chooses and we each choose to do so this way.
which ironically happens in communist societies
@Orc That is a gross oversimplification of life in a hunter-gatherer society and you should feel ashamed.
And that obviously happens in all communist countries, right?
Or does it devolve into a dictatorship really fucking quick
and the workers become the state
and the people become the state
>misunderstanding this hard
What
@Orc Equality wasn't actually present in tribes, people had to work for their meals, which means that the weak who were incapable of gathering food for themselves would have died out, while the stronger ones would get food for themselves, this of course doesn't mean that they wouldn't share or help people in need, but it means that equality as you know it wasn't existent.
>implying I'm misunderstanding
Yes
Are the workers and people not supposed to be the state
Not even implying I outright said it
Show me an example of a communist society that was not a dictatorship
and my examples that i gave explains why his "omg capitalists never let communist countries do their own thing" is BTFO
modern day
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Vietnam
Catalonia
Catalonia is spain
Rojava (god bless)
catalonia isnt communist
they had independence for all of 5 seconds
lmfao
Heaven
What is Spanish civil war again
@Teddy Show me an example of a capitalist society that wasn't a dictatorship. Better yet, show me a capitalist system that wasn't propped up by the state.
kek
@buyXRBpls Rojava has it's days numbered, and catalonia isn't independant, the CNT FAI catalonia was destroyed by the falange pretty fast too.
the united states
Damn the LARP is strong in here
many western european countries