thats literally the same thing
@Brickiest Brick he’s saying we can’t say that it’s reality that a straw doesn’t bend when it’s inside a glass of water because we might be living in the matrix so there’s no way to know
@koifish you mean actual reality or what we perceive as reality?
Actual reality
That's not what Im saying.
ok so he's a classic ultraskeptic
@koifish Then no, we can't.
But who can
we COULD BE living in a SIMULATION so we cant say for sure if anything is actually real
No what we perceive as reality and what is reality is different.
We could but I wouldnt vouch for it
@koifish Nobody. Unless we live in a simulation.
well there is of course the physical reality that you cant deny
everyone and everything perceives the physical reality the same
we all get hurt when we have rocks thrown at us
And whatever controls or watches the simulation knows what reality is.
But what evidence is there to suggest that’s happening?
@Brickiest Brick nerves can be manipulated easily
but i mean physical objects
we dont fall through the ground
other things dont go through each other
plus I think therefore I am isnt a good argument.
there are some apparent truths of reality that we obviously see
@koifish Simulations exist in this reality.
That's evidence
If our simulations try to create simulations then its a higher chance
if they succeed then its an even higher chance
and so on to infinity
@Brickiest Brick same way video game characters sometimes dont fall through the map
how can you compare video game characters glitching through a map to humans and their environment
humans dont fall through the ground
So do some video game characters.
Which is my point.
what the hell is your point i dont get it
It's about advanced simulations.
That's because you're stupid.
It's very easy to understand.
you're a bumbling moron
Exactly.
and you're trying to sound smart
