he was like a misguided brother

nationalism is the only way to inveigle the people to annihilate culturally hegemonic groups

@alines most good people are misguided

i strongly prefer municipalism.
i have no connections to people outside the area where i live

@Firefly thanks. that made me feel better

what do you guys think about freudo-marxism?

sounds intellectually irreconcilable

why is that era of political theory dominated by jewish intellectuals

@Deleted User I like both Freud and Marx but not together. I think they are incompatible.

Im sure the theory of commodity fetishism by marx, may be expanded upon with ideas of freuds psychoanalytic theories

I disagree about fetishism

Why?

Because there is no such a thing. Marx is Dialectical Materialist which is against all fetish by its principles.

how do you mean fetish?

I mean Marx does not think commodity is something special

https://2ch.hk/ussr/src/55204/15279235543930.png

i would say freud's analysis of humanity was extremely pessimistic, and for communism to succeed, people must be assumed to be able to rationally ascertain their needs and abilities and cooperate willingly with others, often against fears and prejudices.
bernays would have agreed with this observation for a fact, and that humans are not rational

freudian psychoanalysis and communism/anarchism are not compatible

@Azaz3l /USSR все еще жив?

why doesnt Mr E love me

Ну есть движуха некоторая, да

@Azaz3l чья движуха?

Да 3,5 анона там постят

Щас буржуи набегут ибо по-русски в чате пишем

https://www.marxists.org/archive/brinton/1972/reich2.htm @alines

Раньше туда понаехали поклонники Скепсиса и Кагарлицкого, я с тех пор и не заходил.

Там мемасы в основном постят, серьезной дискуссии нет

Тут как будто по-другому. А где она сейчас есть?

the way i understand, reich believed that the irrational nature of humans was good.
basically freud's theory of psychoanalysis, but turned on its head, or inverted as it were.
following his teachings, the left in the 60's sought to de-program individuals from capitalism to become individuals first, so that they would be able to defy social norms.
however, the freudian psychoanalysts found a way to hijack it, and that was how raegan and thatcher won their elections in the 80's.
i do not want to repeat the mistakes of radical individualism. it failed

I think Marxism lost a lot by rejecting Freud completely.

I think both individual psyche and social system are important to study. We should not confine ourselves to an extreme production-based theory but to take in account genetics and psychology of an individual.

If we come from both sides we won't lose on anything.

i suppose that may be true.
honestly, "boomer" individuals may have stood not to recapitulate to capitalism via consumerism by simply reading stirner and becoming aware of how capitalists and the government may try to manipulate them.

the biggest shame is that they recapitulated to capitalism in a smaller time window than the soviet union, and they recapitulated PRETTY HARD to it and very easily at that

so full acceptance of psychoanalysis will lead to catastrophic failure for theft

yet again

That is true, but also completely disregarding psyche of an individual is a common mistake right now in Marxism.

I was into psychotherapy long before becoming Marxist.

It works.

But too many Marxists are disregarding it completely.

so i guess in many ways, being conscious individuals, and remaining conscious anti-capitalists is the best conceivable approach.
i guess it's a good thing we're taking that approach right now