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2018-06-11 12:47:55 UTC  

are stirner fans welcome here

2018-06-11 12:51:57 UTC  

I assume so

2018-06-11 12:52:18 UTC  

You don't have to be a leftist to be here really

2018-06-11 12:52:31 UTC  

Just don't be a dick

2018-06-11 12:53:09 UTC  

>well many right wingers lose their jobs just because of their beliefs
Should be worse.

2018-06-11 12:53:11 UTC  

I am pretty ignorant about his writings but we was for anarcho egoism right?

2018-06-11 12:53:22 UTC  

yes

2018-06-11 12:53:25 UTC  

egoist anarchism

2018-06-11 12:53:29 UTC  

my dad

2018-06-11 12:53:41 UTC  

They should be thrown in jail for believing in right-wing politics.

2018-06-11 12:54:34 UTC  

I am an armed leftist than is pretty militant but I think most working class right folks are duped into right idpol aka muh 14 wurds

2018-06-11 12:54:57 UTC  

~~Gun them all down~~

2018-06-11 12:55:13 UTC  

No don't.

2018-06-11 12:56:37 UTC  

Like many working class folks for Trump see their economic lives more fucked up but because capitalist propaganda they blame symptoms of capitalism like immigrants as compared to the real cause of their problems

2018-06-11 12:57:13 UTC  

In all actuality, as a ML I can't be obsessed with left idpol like the Neolibs and anarchists.

2018-06-11 12:57:37 UTC  

ML ?

2018-06-11 12:57:43 UTC  

Marxist-Leninist

2018-06-11 12:57:46 UTC  

ah

2018-06-11 12:57:52 UTC  

People stuck on /pol/ tier ideology are easier to wake up to class consciousness than most people who watch msnbc and thing society is fine

2018-06-11 12:58:02 UTC  

Not really into communist stuff

2018-06-11 12:58:16 UTC  

I'd favour something like mutualism

2018-06-11 12:58:37 UTC  

@quiscalus Also think left idpol is causing many of the White working class to drift right.

2018-06-11 12:58:40 UTC  

and indivdualism

2018-06-11 12:59:28 UTC  

I feel the same way about idpol alienating the white working class

2018-06-11 13:00:43 UTC  

Makes them reactionaries who think Marx is about forcing dudes to take HRT or some insane shit they here from idiots like Jordan peterson

2018-06-11 13:01:15 UTC  

I hate peterson

2018-06-11 13:01:24 UTC  

Agree on some stuff

2018-06-11 13:01:29 UTC  

Think about it, if we exclude an entire group of people from our ranks and call them scum and racists 24/7, as well demonize them in all of our publications, they won't feel welcome and thus, go to the other side.

2018-06-11 13:01:50 UTC  

It was a lesson I had to learn the hard way.

2018-06-11 13:02:08 UTC  

I think most people are turning to libertarian nowadays

2018-06-11 13:03:27 UTC  

Yeah the left has failed to capture the recently disenfranchised white working class by pushing idpol and allowed the right to actual appeal to their material interests

2018-06-11 13:04:26 UTC  

I am gun nut leftist but there are so little of us are ranks are dwarfed by the right

2018-06-11 13:05:33 UTC  

I just dislike how people conflate welfare capitalism with socialism all the time and people lose sight of the no electoral way towards socialism

2018-06-11 13:07:40 UTC  

I think ML and MLM historically have been the most effective wayss to bring about socialism in a state but I feel they have less influence here in NA than more reformist schools of thought

2018-06-11 13:10:23 UTC  

I had a few leftist friends a few months ago. Back then, I was an idiot and didn't see how idpol was hurting us as a movement. So I, of course, was all aboard the idpol train calling all white people racists and crap.
Anyway, one of my friends started to complain about feeling "uncomfortable" whenever he went to events with our group. I of course, like an idiot said that's "racism." This progressed over the few months with me dismissing each of his concerns as "white privilege" or some stupid shit.
One day, he finally had enough. In the middle of a meeting with my friends, he stormed out of the house. I asked him why he did that over the phone. He said, and I quote: "Because all of you hate white people." Even though I'm white myself, I didn't realize what he was getting at.
Fast forward a few months, I later find out he's moved out of our state, and got radicalized pretty quickly.

2018-06-11 13:10:52 UTC  

By the right, of course.

2018-06-11 13:11:48 UTC  

I can only blame myself tbh.

2018-06-11 13:12:06 UTC  

Which is why when I was introduced to Marxism-Leninism, idpol simply dissipated.

2018-06-11 13:12:21 UTC  

Yeah you can't get people to your side by guilt or punishment you have to appeal to their interests materially or at least emotionally

2018-06-11 13:13:56 UTC  

I live in one of the most liberal cities in the US and I am still a bit wary of running afoul of the idpol enforcers

2018-06-11 13:14:50 UTC  

Like I hang out with other leftists and go shooting but I never joined any group beyond my immediate friends