Message from @Workingman
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fair point, but i only see that the media portrays him as a populist, because apparently populist by the public eye means he's literally hitler
I think most of the values of the right can't be served by capitalism. The desires of the conservative right are at odds with the aims of capital.
Take immigration because immigrant labor pushes down wages and Trump wants to appeal to working class White America he says he cracks down on immigration but is actually more relaxed than the previous president. The business Community once immigrants to push down wages so they don't have to pay as much, Trump himself applied to get immigrants visas to work for his company.
You do look at traditional gender roles things traditionally the right find something to be very important capitalism is at odds with that as well. As wages are pushed down women are forced into the workplace they gain independence and economic power destroying the traditional gender roles.
I don't think of trump as Hitler I disagree with his economic policies I just think people make him out to be a lot worse than he is.
For the longest time he was a pro-business democratic liberal. I think he chose just to be a Republican because it's easier to appeal to the material interest of the white working class and not be pinned down by political correctness that plagues the left. But really the policies he is advocating aren't going to increase the wealth of the white working-class.
Aww man I wanted to talk to that Trump fan more
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@quiscalus sorry i went to get something to eat
No biggie I am an captive audience anyways I'm stuck at work in my office
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@Deleted User hmu whenever you are down to chat more
are stirner fans welcome here
I assume so
You don't have to be a leftist to be here really
Just don't be a dick
>well many right wingers lose their jobs just because of their beliefs
Should be worse.
I am pretty ignorant about his writings but we was for anarcho egoism right?
yes
egoist anarchism
my dad
They should be thrown in jail for believing in right-wing politics.
I am an armed leftist than is pretty militant but I think most working class right folks are duped into right idpol aka muh 14 wurds
No don't.
Like many working class folks for Trump see their economic lives more fucked up but because capitalist propaganda they blame symptoms of capitalism like immigrants as compared to the real cause of their problems
In all actuality, as a ML I can't be obsessed with left idpol like the Neolibs and anarchists.
ML ?
Marxist-Leninist
ah
People stuck on /pol/ tier ideology are easier to wake up to class consciousness than most people who watch msnbc and thing society is fine
Not really into communist stuff
I'd favour something like mutualism
@quiscalus Also think left idpol is causing many of the White working class to drift right.
and indivdualism
I feel the same way about idpol alienating the white working class
Makes them reactionaries who think Marx is about forcing dudes to take HRT or some insane shit they here from idiots like Jordan peterson
I hate peterson
Agree on some stuff
Think about it, if we exclude an entire group of people from our ranks and call them scum and racists 24/7, as well demonize them in all of our publications, they won't feel welcome and thus, go to the other side.
It was a lesson I had to learn the hard way.
I think most people are turning to libertarian nowadays
Yeah the left has failed to capture the recently disenfranchised white working class by pushing idpol and allowed the right to actual appeal to their material interests
I am gun nut leftist but there are so little of us are ranks are dwarfed by the right