Message from @MRHELLBLAZER

Discord ID: 462432525416005633


2018-06-30 01:37:19 UTC  

That's fine if he wants to but why would he want too?

2018-06-30 01:37:25 UTC  

For trade?

2018-06-30 01:37:27 UTC  

Thats fine

2018-06-30 01:37:33 UTC  

Also

2018-06-30 01:37:42 UTC  

but once it becomes controlling it has to be anaylzed, ctiqued, and if need be fixed

2018-06-30 01:37:46 UTC  

Other farmers would want to buy his surplus

2018-06-30 01:37:55 UTC  

If the rest of the people don’t, they will

2018-06-30 01:38:02 UTC  

Someone will buy it

2018-06-30 01:38:05 UTC  

If he makes enough of it

2018-06-30 01:38:11 UTC  

Or

2018-06-30 01:38:15 UTC  

If the quality is better

2018-06-30 01:38:29 UTC  

Thats true, and then they can participate in a gift economy

2018-06-30 01:38:39 UTC  

But it will really only be trading surpluses

2018-06-30 01:39:45 UTC  

However if the farmers buy the food they will be sacrificing something of their own so that they can give that food to the rest of the commune

2018-06-30 01:40:02 UTC  

Would at least some of them not want to be paid for it

2018-06-30 01:40:16 UTC  

They don't have to give anything to the commune

2018-06-30 01:40:22 UTC  

Its all voluntary

2018-06-30 01:40:28 UTC  

For support of the commune

2018-06-30 01:41:13 UTC  

Well yeah but I’m just saying that a market system forming is inevitable

2018-06-30 01:41:25 UTC  

Markets are fine, capitalism is not

2018-06-30 01:41:45 UTC  

But honestly it really isn't inevitable

2018-06-30 01:42:09 UTC  

And Markets themselves can be regulated or even abolished depending on a commune vote

2018-06-30 01:42:43 UTC  

How could they be abolished

2018-06-30 01:43:00 UTC  

If they were abolished, people would stop providing goods

2018-06-30 01:43:16 UTC  

Not really, they would just provide to the commune or keep for themselves

2018-06-30 01:43:40 UTC  

Collectivized job sites also kind of form their own commune

2018-06-30 01:43:42 UTC  

But that would mean a crucial main source of a good for the commune is now gone

2018-06-30 01:43:49 UTC  

Why would they do that

2018-06-30 01:44:00 UTC  

Why would who do what?

2018-06-30 01:44:06 UTC  

Eliminate markets

2018-06-30 01:44:14 UTC  

And other people who are a part of the commune would pick it up

2018-06-30 01:44:24 UTC  

and eliminating markets is just meaning the gift economy

2018-06-30 01:44:36 UTC  

though it would probably follow from the abolition of currency

2018-06-30 01:45:26 UTC  

Why would they pick it up though

2018-06-30 01:45:41 UTC  

This particular farmer or farmers were the best in their firld

2018-06-30 01:45:42 UTC  

Cause they don't want to starve?

2018-06-30 01:45:43 UTC  

Field

2018-06-30 01:45:57 UTC  

They made the highest quality food and knew how to farm

2018-06-30 01:46:10 UTC  

Eventually the cycle will happen again

2018-06-30 01:46:16 UTC  

Another farmer will be the best

2018-06-30 01:46:21 UTC  

And they will get frustrated