Message from @Hooty

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2018-07-19 00:22:58 UTC  

every prole

2018-07-19 00:23:08 UTC  

but the employer needs to make a profit so they can't actually pay the ideal wages

2018-07-19 00:23:13 UTC  

why did they agree to work for the employer then?

2018-07-19 00:23:25 UTC  

because they need money

2018-07-19 00:23:29 UTC  

LOL

2018-07-19 00:23:32 UTC  

beggars can't be choosers

2018-07-19 00:23:37 UTC  

Capitalism isnt voluntary

2018-07-19 00:23:41 UTC  

you have choice in a free market dude

2018-07-19 00:23:42 UTC  

you either are born into money

2018-07-19 00:23:51 UTC  

if you reject every job that doesn't offer ideal wages then you'll never have a job

2018-07-19 00:23:53 UTC  

or you have no choice, wage slave

2018-07-19 00:24:07 UTC  

the choice is either work for unfair wages or die

2018-07-19 00:24:10 UTC  

there is no alternative

2018-07-19 00:24:14 UTC  

do you realize how valuable money is?

2018-07-19 00:24:22 UTC  

Uh yeah...

2018-07-19 00:24:24 UTC  

do you realize how valuable labor is?

2018-07-19 00:24:40 UTC  

you realize the infinite possibilities you can use money on?

2018-07-19 00:24:43 UTC  

labor is the source of all value

2018-07-19 00:25:21 UTC  

if there are no workers in a company, then it can't make a profit
however, if there's no employer in a company, then it's just a cooperative

2018-07-19 00:25:35 UTC  

the wealthy do not create prosperous economic conditions they accumulate capital and will do ANYTHING to reduce labour costs

2018-07-19 00:25:40 UTC  

what do you want to own exactly instead of money? A teddy bears foot that you sew on in an assembly line?

2018-07-19 00:25:48 UTC  

🐻

2018-07-19 00:26:00 UTC  

there is a class that collects rent

2018-07-19 00:26:04 UTC  

and a class that pays it

2018-07-19 00:26:10 UTC  

or do you think you are entitled to the entire bear?

2018-07-19 00:26:17 UTC  

you seem to think that money is the problem here
the problem isn't what people are being paid with

2018-07-19 00:26:20 UTC  

The collectors dont actually do anything

2018-07-19 00:26:25 UTC  

the problem is how much they're being paid

2018-07-19 00:26:36 UTC  

no company can offer fair wages, because otherwise they'll have no profit

2018-07-19 00:26:54 UTC  

do you realize that you have agency?

2018-07-19 00:27:15 UTC  

I can choose how I'm exploited
or I can choose to die on the street

2018-07-19 00:27:20 UTC  

that's not much of a choice

2018-07-19 00:27:38 UTC  

but on a macroeconomic scale this causes a contradiction because the less money the proletariat has the less people there are to buy the capitalists products

2018-07-19 00:27:56 UTC  

so the solution in the last 30 years was to just give credit to ppl

2018-07-19 00:28:01 UTC  

It'S vOlUnTaRy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/469299338133372929/2Q.png

2018-07-19 00:28:02 UTC  

or you can start your own business that pays its workers fairly and puts the others out of business, stealing their intellectual capital

2018-07-19 00:28:15 UTC  

do you know how hard starting a business is?

2018-07-19 00:28:26 UTC  

easy as fuck

2018-07-19 00:28:27 UTC  

you have to take risks and sink a lot of money into the project

2018-07-19 00:28:29 UTC  

Wealth is inherited

2018-07-19 00:28:36 UTC  

isn't the whole point of an entrepeneur that they take risks?