Message from @Hooty

Discord ID: 469298130698108928


2018-07-19 00:19:21 UTC  

We need to collectivize the toothbrushes

2018-07-19 00:19:37 UTC  

Oh yeah, they don’t design, own and run businesses with their own unique intellectual property and such?

2018-07-19 00:19:38 UTC  

the commodity produced is equivalent to all of the labor that went into it
so if the person selling the commodity gets more money than they put into making it, then they haven't paid the workers an equivalent amount to what their labor is worth

2018-07-19 00:19:56 UTC  

you dont get it

2018-07-19 00:20:10 UTC  

the rich just own parts of the economy through shares and land holdings

2018-07-19 00:20:15 UTC  

design

2018-07-19 00:20:17 UTC  

?

2018-07-19 00:20:19 UTC  

hire someone for that

2018-07-19 00:20:29 UTC  

the marketers do the designing

2018-07-19 00:20:35 UTC  

here's your logic

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/469297466018365460/image.png

2018-07-19 00:21:23 UTC  

God even rich people know its a con

2018-07-19 00:22:06 UTC  

@Hooty small businesses are different because the employer often has to do a lot of the work themself

2018-07-19 00:22:25 UTC  

thereby, they are entitled to the product of their labor

2018-07-19 00:22:39 UTC  

are you saying someone isn't getting paid a fair wage?

2018-07-19 00:22:41 UTC  

yes

2018-07-19 00:22:44 UTC  

yes

2018-07-19 00:22:47 UTC  

Who

2018-07-19 00:22:57 UTC  

the ideal wages wouldn't result in any profit for the employer

2018-07-19 00:22:58 UTC  

every prole

2018-07-19 00:23:08 UTC  

but the employer needs to make a profit so they can't actually pay the ideal wages

2018-07-19 00:23:13 UTC  

why did they agree to work for the employer then?

2018-07-19 00:23:25 UTC  

because they need money

2018-07-19 00:23:29 UTC  

LOL

2018-07-19 00:23:32 UTC  

beggars can't be choosers

2018-07-19 00:23:37 UTC  

Capitalism isnt voluntary

2018-07-19 00:23:41 UTC  

you have choice in a free market dude

2018-07-19 00:23:42 UTC  

you either are born into money

2018-07-19 00:23:51 UTC  

if you reject every job that doesn't offer ideal wages then you'll never have a job

2018-07-19 00:23:53 UTC  

or you have no choice, wage slave

2018-07-19 00:24:07 UTC  

the choice is either work for unfair wages or die

2018-07-19 00:24:10 UTC  

there is no alternative

2018-07-19 00:24:14 UTC  

do you realize how valuable money is?

2018-07-19 00:24:22 UTC  

Uh yeah...

2018-07-19 00:24:24 UTC  

do you realize how valuable labor is?

2018-07-19 00:24:40 UTC  

you realize the infinite possibilities you can use money on?

2018-07-19 00:24:43 UTC  

labor is the source of all value

2018-07-19 00:25:21 UTC  

if there are no workers in a company, then it can't make a profit
however, if there's no employer in a company, then it's just a cooperative

2018-07-19 00:25:35 UTC  

the wealthy do not create prosperous economic conditions they accumulate capital and will do ANYTHING to reduce labour costs

2018-07-19 00:25:40 UTC  

what do you want to own exactly instead of money? A teddy bears foot that you sew on in an assembly line?

2018-07-19 00:25:48 UTC  

🐻

2018-07-19 00:26:00 UTC  

there is a class that collects rent