Message from @Nicholas91

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2018-07-19 00:25:35 UTC  

the wealthy do not create prosperous economic conditions they accumulate capital and will do ANYTHING to reduce labour costs

2018-07-19 00:25:40 UTC  

what do you want to own exactly instead of money? A teddy bears foot that you sew on in an assembly line?

2018-07-19 00:25:48 UTC  

🐻

2018-07-19 00:26:00 UTC  

there is a class that collects rent

2018-07-19 00:26:04 UTC  

and a class that pays it

2018-07-19 00:26:10 UTC  

or do you think you are entitled to the entire bear?

2018-07-19 00:26:17 UTC  

you seem to think that money is the problem here
the problem isn't what people are being paid with

2018-07-19 00:26:20 UTC  

The collectors dont actually do anything

2018-07-19 00:26:25 UTC  

the problem is how much they're being paid

2018-07-19 00:26:36 UTC  

no company can offer fair wages, because otherwise they'll have no profit

2018-07-19 00:26:54 UTC  

do you realize that you have agency?

2018-07-19 00:27:15 UTC  

I can choose how I'm exploited
or I can choose to die on the street

2018-07-19 00:27:20 UTC  

that's not much of a choice

2018-07-19 00:27:38 UTC  

but on a macroeconomic scale this causes a contradiction because the less money the proletariat has the less people there are to buy the capitalists products

2018-07-19 00:27:56 UTC  

so the solution in the last 30 years was to just give credit to ppl

2018-07-19 00:28:01 UTC  

It'S vOlUnTaRy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/469299338133372929/2Q.png

2018-07-19 00:28:02 UTC  

or you can start your own business that pays its workers fairly and puts the others out of business, stealing their intellectual capital

2018-07-19 00:28:15 UTC  

do you know how hard starting a business is?

2018-07-19 00:28:26 UTC  

easy as fuck

2018-07-19 00:28:27 UTC  

you have to take risks and sink a lot of money into the project

2018-07-19 00:28:29 UTC  

Wealth is inherited

2018-07-19 00:28:36 UTC  

isn't the whole point of an entrepeneur that they take risks?

2018-07-19 00:28:55 UTC  

yeah, if you don't want to take risk, you can work for someone else that does

2018-07-19 00:29:28 UTC  

no risk, no reward

2018-07-19 00:29:34 UTC  

so it's easy as fuck to take risks?

2018-07-19 00:29:36 UTC  

Capitalism is probably going to benefit me greatly and i can criticize it

2018-07-19 00:29:45 UTC  

calculated risks

2018-07-19 00:29:48 UTC  

but you cant..

2018-07-19 00:30:16 UTC  

critical theory might explain this

2018-07-19 00:30:17 UTC  

all it takes is one good idea

2018-07-19 00:30:24 UTC  

and you can become a millionaire

2018-07-19 00:30:25 UTC  

no it just takes owning land

2018-07-19 00:30:35 UTC  

or parts of the economy in shares

2018-07-19 00:30:35 UTC  

this isn't feudalism dude

2018-07-19 00:30:49 UTC  

or state capitalism like Marx was talking about

2018-07-19 00:30:50 UTC  

didn't nikola tesla die in debt?

2018-07-19 00:31:00 UTC  

that was his choice

2018-07-19 00:31:06 UTC  

capital itself generates capital

2018-07-19 00:31:09 UTC  

it was his choice to be cheated by edison?

2018-07-19 00:31:21 UTC  

he was promised 10 thousand dollars for his ideas
and he was scammed

2018-07-19 00:31:23 UTC  

he stopped working for Edison