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No, I mean they don’t produce more than they get paid for

but then how is profit made?

the production cost includes the wages you pay to your workers

The collective actions of workers that result in an end product through division of labor

that involves surplus value

the rich dont do anything

just own and collect

there isnt any genius to it

if you have money u can make money its easy

We need to collectivize the toothbrushes

Oh yeah, they don’t design, own and run businesses with their own unique intellectual property and such?

the commodity produced is equivalent to all of the labor that went into it
so if the person selling the commodity gets more money than they put into making it, then they haven't paid the workers an equivalent amount to what their labor is worth

you dont get it

the rich just own parts of the economy through shares and land holdings

design

?

hire someone for that

the marketers do the designing

here's your logic

God even rich people know its a con

@Hooty small businesses are different because the employer often has to do a lot of the work themself

thereby, they are entitled to the product of their labor

are you saying someone isn't getting paid a fair wage?

yes

yes

Who

the ideal wages wouldn't result in any profit for the employer

every prole

but the employer needs to make a profit so they can't actually pay the ideal wages

why did they agree to work for the employer then?

because they need money

LOL

beggars can't be choosers

Capitalism isnt voluntary

you have choice in a free market dude

you either are born into money

if you reject every job that doesn't offer ideal wages then you'll never have a job

or you have no choice, wage slave

the choice is either work for unfair wages or die

there is no alternative