Message from @Geamr

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2018-07-29 14:28:01 UTC  

how do you know which people will be effective?

2018-07-29 14:28:26 UTC  

The message disseminates down to the local groups to see if anyone wants to volunteer

2018-07-29 14:29:17 UTC  

The state apparatus will end up killing more people than ever before if we let it continue

2018-07-29 14:29:18 UTC  

I really just don't see how that can work as an effective and efficient problem solving mechanism on a global scale

2018-07-29 14:29:40 UTC  

First we need to ask what global problems are there really?

2018-07-29 14:29:49 UTC  

Global warming is the big one obviously

2018-07-29 14:29:57 UTC  

Its already too late you know right?

2018-07-29 14:30:05 UTC  

the depletion of natural resources by capitalism, the need to feed an overpopulated planet

2018-07-29 14:30:13 UTC  

Myth

2018-07-29 14:30:14 UTC  

the massive wealth disparty currently exsisting

2018-07-29 14:30:27 UTC  

We have the food to feed everyone we just throw it out because no one buys it

2018-07-29 14:30:32 UTC  

Too late for what and what is a myth?

2018-07-29 14:30:32 UTC  

and Capitalism will be abolished

2018-07-29 14:30:45 UTC  

yeah but the redistribution will be a massive effort that needs to be coordinated

2018-07-29 14:30:54 UTC  

On the local level

2018-07-29 14:30:58 UTC  

or people will end up suffering unnecessarly

2018-07-29 14:31:03 UTC  

no

2018-07-29 14:31:05 UTC  

its a global issue

2018-07-29 14:31:17 UTC  

you cant redistribute resources in the congo and call that equality

2018-07-29 14:31:35 UTC  

they need to come from where they are most abunant to where they are most needed in an organized, planned way

2018-07-29 14:31:53 UTC  

all of your councils around the world would have to work out a plan together

2018-07-29 14:31:57 UTC  

I mean you can, without capitalism they can diversify their economy and without the state apparatus they no longer worry about border disputes

2018-07-29 14:32:17 UTC  

And the councils, if they feel it is a global issue, can kick the issue up to the international level

2018-07-29 14:32:26 UTC  

the damage capitalism has done will last for decades if not a century or more

2018-07-29 14:32:37 UTC  

I disagree

2018-07-29 14:32:45 UTC  

It will last until the end of the revolution

2018-07-29 14:32:55 UTC  

I think you are not aware of just how much damage is being done to the ecosystem alone right now

2018-07-29 14:33:16 UTC  

Our ecosystem is fucked

2018-07-29 14:33:17 UTC  

Or to peoples minds

2018-07-29 14:33:18 UTC  

permanently

2018-07-29 14:33:27 UTC  

and People's minds will be freed during the revolution

2018-07-29 14:33:44 UTC  

it's in an unsustainable decline and we need to stabilize it and overcome the consequences of climate change

2018-07-29 14:34:02 UTC  

that's fairly optimistic, capitalism is very good at making slaves

2018-07-29 14:34:08 UTC  

Its already too late though, the damage is done permanently to our planet

2018-07-29 14:34:12 UTC  

and freeing slaves takes more than to break their chains

2018-07-29 14:34:22 UTC  

It's even better at hiding its slavery

2018-07-29 14:34:32 UTC  

we can mitigate the warming through control of carbon emissions still

2018-07-29 14:34:45 UTC  

but yes many things are already going to create huge problems

2018-07-29 14:35:11 UTC  

that's exactly why it will be hard to free the slaves, they didn't even know they were in chains

2018-07-29 14:36:01 UTC  

and then you ask them to give up some of their wealth and comfort to other people?
how would you deal with the inevetable counter-revolutions?

2018-07-29 14:36:31 UTC  

Would it be considered a revolution if it's against the interests of the majority?