Message from @Geamr
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mesopotamia was a planned economy
everything was set by the ruling class
oh is this that libertarian "capitalism is when you are free and shit" bullshit?
how much wheat you grow and how many shoes you make
was administrated by a bureaucracy
which we have evidence of
since they had writing
and we found artifacts
"The gods were thought to be present in the planning and execution of any building project and very specific prayers, recited in a set order to the proper deity, were considered of utmost importance in the success of the project and the prosperity of the occupants of the home."
mesopotamia was a theocracy
it was planned top-down to please the gods
>central planning is capitalist
Capitalism is defined by a market economy
not by money
oh so we're back to the whole "ideologies mean fuck all because I say they do"
thing
capitalism can have central planning now
Fuckin chinks, eh?
yes but that does not create capitalism either
property is not capitalism either
"people owned property therefore capitalism"
you have property in socialism too
feudalism is capitalism I guess
OK one last time
THE MARKET
is what defines capitalism
or more strictly the "free market"
@PugSlugger stop copying marx dumb commie
and when did people start owning the means of production individually? The late enlightenment.
and the emerging market made it possible
"free" market
is what i said
but before then it was not capitalism
so then where do we disagree again?
I guess that a government controlled centrally planned economy is capitalism now
hey have I ever told you about the glorious capitalist USSR?
we were arguing about when capitalism began
what does china have to do with itt