Message from @comuna redpill

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2018-07-29 15:13:02 UTC  

and donald trump things climate change is a chinese scam

2018-07-29 15:13:06 UTC  

feudalism only has such bad look because it was the first main enemy of capitalism

2018-07-29 15:13:11 UTC  

idiots do not prove general intelligence was lower

2018-07-29 15:13:14 UTC  

when capitalism was progressive

2018-07-29 15:13:45 UTC  

lol

2018-07-29 15:13:52 UTC  

this reminds me of that Its always sunny episode

2018-07-29 15:14:13 UTC  

this is basically you right now

2018-07-29 15:14:13 UTC  

they had a wrong concept of substance, ok, dont mean they were dumb

2018-07-29 15:14:25 UTC  

in fact mostly people do today

2018-07-29 15:14:31 UTC  

doesnt*

2018-07-29 15:14:51 UTC  

most philosophy until the 16th century was still based on aristotelian concepts

2018-07-29 15:15:04 UTC  

i'd say he was pretty damn smart

2018-07-29 15:15:15 UTC  

for his time he was

2018-07-29 15:15:19 UTC  

smart people can come to wrong conclusions

2018-07-29 15:15:35 UTC  

where did i say that

2018-07-29 15:16:36 UTC  

yeah to "ancient greeks" in general, not aristotle in particular

2018-07-29 15:17:31 UTC  

i mean slaves didnt had any acess to information whatsoever

2018-07-29 15:17:42 UTC  

i did not know he believed that, but i do not think he was an idiot

2018-07-29 15:17:45 UTC  

so understandable

2018-07-29 15:18:02 UTC  

we are talking now about greece

2018-07-29 15:18:07 UTC  

back then there was no such thing as empirical science and knowledge was a luxury good

2018-07-29 15:18:12 UTC  

but serfs didnt had education too

2018-07-29 15:18:21 UTC  

except for the clergy

2018-07-29 15:18:38 UTC  

access to education != being smarter than someone

2018-07-29 15:18:57 UTC  

uhhhhh nope

2018-07-29 15:19:01 UTC  

in agriculture too

2018-07-29 15:19:29 UTC  

feudalism developed agriculture to levels unknown until the feudal era

2018-07-29 15:19:59 UTC  

the bronze age actually had a big boom in agriculture, and i don't think that was feudalism already

2018-07-29 15:20:26 UTC  

wait your sentence doesn't make sense

2018-07-29 15:21:28 UTC  

sorry

2018-07-29 15:21:32 UTC  

im brazillian

2018-07-29 15:21:47 UTC  

what i mean is that they developed agriculture a lot

2018-07-29 15:22:17 UTC  

very slowly, but yeah, and apparently a lot more sustainable than the bronze age system

2018-07-29 15:23:21 UTC  

which eventually led to more accumulation of wealth and creating the merchant class, making cities important trading and financial centers and giving rise to capitalism

2018-07-29 15:23:41 UTC  

feudalism is the same as the feudal era i'd say, that's what i meant

2018-07-29 15:23:47 UTC  

@Geamr man animal traction came strong as hell in feudalism

2018-07-29 15:23:57 UTC  

like never before

2018-07-29 15:24:05 UTC  

in a relatively short time

2018-07-29 15:24:51 UTC  

i don't know enough about the development of agriculture tech in that period, but i meant slow through todays lens

2018-07-29 15:25:29 UTC  

but yeah technological advances were accelerating in earnest around then and really jumped in the enlightenment era after