Message from @Geamr

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2018-07-29 15:05:56 UTC  

nothing we do is natural, farming wasnt natural, cities weren't natural, the natural argument is transparent deflection

2018-07-29 15:06:06 UTC  

capitalism does many things well, nobody denies that

2018-07-29 15:06:39 UTC  

but it didn't evolve by itself

2018-07-29 15:06:45 UTC  

humans made it

2018-07-29 15:06:49 UTC  

^

2018-07-29 15:07:20 UTC  

not because they were trying to or because of some invisible force that drives them to want coca cola, it's just how history played out

2018-07-29 15:07:22 UTC  

there was no capitalism without laws put in place by the state to do things like establish currencies and property deeds

2018-07-29 15:07:41 UTC  

that's not what capitalism is either

2018-07-29 15:08:14 UTC  

If you make something with your own tools and sell it for money, that is not a capitalist market exchange

2018-07-29 15:08:39 UTC  

most people working on farms were serfs

2018-07-29 15:08:48 UTC  

they did not get paid, they recieved food and shelter and protection

2018-07-29 15:08:57 UTC  

what little money they got was from selling goods they created

2018-07-29 15:09:30 UTC  

Most places until the enlightenment yes

2018-07-29 15:09:41 UTC  

history is not a series of logical events in sequence

2018-07-29 15:09:44 UTC  

humans are not logical

2018-07-29 15:10:15 UTC  

If you pay your serfs then they are no longer dependent on you

2018-07-29 15:10:17 UTC  

it was not everywhere

2018-07-29 15:10:20 UTC  

why would a feudal lord want that

2018-07-29 15:10:21 UTC  

"stupid 14th century kings! Why can't you be rational like me, a big-brained modern capitalist!"

2018-07-29 15:10:26 UTC  

africa was mainly slave society by then

2018-07-29 15:10:49 UTC  

I'm just talking europe because i know a little bit about that

2018-07-29 15:10:49 UTC  

and latin america was mainly primitive society

2018-07-29 15:11:15 UTC  

they did lmao

2018-07-29 15:11:25 UTC  

who didnt were the serfs

2018-07-29 15:11:40 UTC  

thats what is called alienation **boi**

2018-07-29 15:11:42 UTC  

People in the past were just as intelligent as we are, they just had worse access to education and information or our accumulated knowledge

2018-07-29 15:11:49 UTC  

exactly

2018-07-29 15:12:06 UTC  

and many kings had knowledge about their own position

2018-07-29 15:12:07 UTC  

the kings received tutoring about the knowledge of the ancient greeks where they could find it

2018-07-29 15:12:16 UTC  

they did from a feudal point of view

2018-07-29 15:12:22 UTC  

so nice derailing of the argument

2018-07-29 15:12:25 UTC  

theological anatomy

2018-07-29 15:12:32 UTC  

you still haven't shown a capitalist society before the enlightenment

2018-07-29 15:12:38 UTC  

and so on

2018-07-29 15:13:02 UTC  

and donald trump things climate change is a chinese scam

2018-07-29 15:13:06 UTC  

feudalism only has such bad look because it was the first main enemy of capitalism

2018-07-29 15:13:11 UTC  

idiots do not prove general intelligence was lower

2018-07-29 15:13:14 UTC  

when capitalism was progressive

2018-07-29 15:13:45 UTC  

lol

2018-07-29 15:13:52 UTC  

this reminds me of that Its always sunny episode