Message from @comuna redpill
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What a fuckfest
@PugSlugger remember his name
F
mr. e is next
calling it now
>The man who literally bankrolled the Bolshevik Revolution was an anti-Leninist.
@comuna redpill seems like a stretch, you got a source?
This brings us to another aspect of the question of the state apparatus. In addition to the chiefly "oppressive" apparatus—the standing army, the police and the bureaucracy—the modern state possesses an apparatus which has extremely close connections with the banks and syndicates, an apparatus which performs an enormous amount of accounting and registration work, if it may be expressed this way. This apparatus must not, and should not, be smashed. It must be wrested from the control of the capitalists; the capitalists and the wires they pull must be cut off, lopped off, chopped away from this apparatus; it must be subordinated to the proletarian Soviets; it must be expanded, made more comprehensive, and nation-wide. And this can be done by utilising the achievements already made by large-scale capitalism (in the same way as the proletarian revolution can, in general, reach its goal only by utilising these achievements).
Capitalism has created an accounting apparatus in the shape of the banks, syndicates, postal service, consumers' societies, and office employees' unions. Without big banks socialism would be impossible.
The big banks are the "state apparatus" which we need to bring about socialism, and which we take ready-made from capitalism; our task here is merely to lop off what capitalistically mutilates this excellent apparatus, to make it even bigger, even more democratic, even more comprehensive. Quantity will be transformed into quality. A single State Bank, the biggest of the big, with branches in every rural district, in every factory, will constitute as much as nine-tenths of the socialist apparatus. This will be country wide book-keeping, country-wide accounting of the production and distribution of goods, this will be, so to speak, some thing in the nature of the skeleton of socialist society.
It was took out of context
And many statements were cut off
This quotation pretty much confirms that the revolution of 1917 was a follow up of the one in 1789, except those same (((merchants))) who ran those banks were able to exercise even more power and enslavement.
That's not the case at all
Lenin is a terrific writer.
Nope
State and the revolution is very good
And his notes on hegel are superb
And many of his collected works have a political firmness out of league
Plus beare the fact that the translations can have a weight on the final result specially with languages like Russian
They misstranlate from German until today imagine back then with Russian texts
He shows a significant different state structure
Question
What is the difference between Trotskyism and Leninism
Albeit the abridged version of the quote appears to be out of context, the conclusion to which the full quote arrives is the same while travelling a different route to it. @comuna redpill
Trotskyism is skeptical of the proletarian peasant alliance
And is liquidationist
@Deleted User if you are brain dead maybe yes
nice
trotskyism is a term that you use to describe people you don't like
Proletarian peasant alliance?
That too
@Frosty the union of the proletariat with the small and middle peasant class
The lower sections of the middle peasant class
So bad more communist than Lenin?
Nope
Fun fact I’ve been to Lenin’s tomb
Just left deviationist
Left deviationism is anti marxist
Lenin wrote on that
Left communism an infatile desorder
To many terms