Message from @Dushman

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2018-09-12 15:08:48 UTC  

I get the feeling that the distinctions regardless, main point being we're all in one coin.

2018-09-12 15:08:57 UTC  

Isn't all materialist philosophy inherently determisnistic

2018-09-12 15:09:00 UTC  

regardless of ideology to pick

2018-09-12 15:09:07 UTC  

Tru

2018-09-12 15:09:24 UTC  

How do I word this uhhhhh

2018-09-12 15:09:27 UTC  

it's more fatalist than deterministic but its like the same

2018-09-12 15:09:37 UTC  

^ yeh what I was trying to say

2018-09-12 15:09:44 UTC  

It reeks a bit of nihilism

2018-09-12 15:09:49 UTC  

and he likes talking about destiny

2018-09-12 15:09:59 UTC  

Hmmm

2018-09-12 15:10:36 UTC  

As a staunch materialist, I would argue that marxist theory provides a more fatalist approach to our world that is supported by history

2018-09-12 15:10:51 UTC  

Partly fatalist.

2018-09-12 15:10:55 UTC  

Considering, this is purely hypothetical

2018-09-12 15:10:56 UTC  

but to my nihilism is just a way of saying the world is beyond categories, can't we agree on that?

2018-09-12 15:10:57 UTC  

Unless you mean it in a different light

2018-09-12 15:11:09 UTC  

No

2018-09-12 15:11:10 UTC  

or what do yall mean by nihilism

2018-09-12 15:11:16 UTC  

"Fatalism is a philosophical doctrine that stresses the subjugation of all events or actions to destiny" So you mean this one?

2018-09-12 15:11:22 UTC  

The world is a complex organization of energy interacting through space-time

2018-09-12 15:11:24 UTC  

Nothing else

2018-09-12 15:11:38 UTC  

"nihilism"

2018-09-12 15:11:43 UTC  

Well i used that term

2018-09-12 15:11:48 UTC  

In regards to nagarjuna

2018-09-12 15:11:53 UTC  

Because from what I understand

2018-09-12 15:12:06 UTC  

Since all we do is rather pointless regardless of what light we paint ourselves into

2018-09-12 15:12:12 UTC  

comes back into the same ole existential problems of

2018-09-12 15:12:18 UTC  

why not let's get this shit over and smash ourselves

2018-09-12 15:12:22 UTC  

problem solved

2018-09-12 15:12:35 UTC  

But then the gift concept

2018-09-12 15:12:38 UTC  

But scientific categories are all provisional, there's no scientific "knowledge" only predictions within our time-scale

2018-09-12 15:12:41 UTC  

is altogether I'm still trying to comprehend

2018-09-12 15:12:43 UTC  

We don't have a choice regardless #iwanttokillmyself

2018-09-12 15:12:49 UTC  

^

2018-09-12 15:12:55 UTC  

i think the problem is that death is not real

2018-09-12 15:13:06 UTC  

Sure, we can devalue empirics

2018-09-12 15:13:07 UTC  

i think the reason we are here is simply that there is no reason we shouldn't be

2018-09-12 15:13:13 UTC  

all possibilities are actual

2018-09-12 15:13:17 UTC  

so here we are

2018-09-12 15:13:20 UTC  

However, one must also devalue all the information deducted from empirics

2018-09-12 15:13:27 UTC  

We could all be thinking suicides, one day attempting but never being able to meet death or could meet death in a differenct circumstance that is largely not in our control?

2018-09-12 15:13:32 UTC  

Otherwise, that is hypocrisy and opportunism