Message from @nagarjuna

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2018-09-12 15:03:00 UTC  

Islam would have suffer terribly a huge amount of revolts.

2018-09-12 15:03:06 UTC  

Saudi Arabia being a prime example

2018-09-12 15:03:24 UTC  

Not just terrorism. Their culture is practically quite contrary to the used lives of people under secular/reformed Christianity.

2018-09-12 15:03:25 UTC  

so has this system lmao but if muslims invented the maxim gun first it would not have hattered

2018-09-12 15:03:29 UTC  

mattered*

2018-09-12 15:03:42 UTC  

Our culture is different too. We had guns fam

2018-09-12 15:03:52 UTC  

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply

2018-09-12 15:04:04 UTC  

You stated that if Islam was hegemonic, terrorism would occur against it

2018-09-12 15:04:17 UTC  

global hegemony is like batman. when batman shows up, the villains all come out to challenge him

2018-09-12 15:04:22 UTC  

I believe he hypothetical placed that if Islam was majority of the world's belief

2018-09-12 15:04:28 UTC  

There would be terrorism against it.

2018-09-12 15:04:31 UTC  

Ok

2018-09-12 15:04:31 UTC  

when something dominates the world system, then resistance seeps from all sectors

2018-09-12 15:04:41 UTC  

yes yes hypothetical

2018-09-12 15:04:45 UTC  

It would be natural to have such anti-thesis because it still has conflicting elements left unresolved.

2018-09-12 15:04:46 UTC  

Does this not occur on a smaller scale

2018-09-12 15:04:48 UTC  

Dialectically.

2018-09-12 15:05:02 UTC  

It does but suppose the world becomes subjugated under Islam.

2018-09-12 15:05:07 UTC  

No

2018-09-12 15:05:11 UTC  

I need contemporary empirics

2018-09-12 15:05:14 UTC  

absolutely, but muslims can still blame a larger power

2018-09-12 15:05:17 UTC  

Up to nagarjuna

2018-09-12 15:05:36 UTC  

If it cannot occur non-globally, I would say that is a serious point to discuss

2018-09-12 15:05:38 UTC  

9/11 was great for the US because then the US gets to claim its a victim, which is rich for the most powerful country ever

2018-09-12 15:05:55 UTC  

I am aware of the existence of the petrodollar

2018-09-12 15:05:58 UTC  

Please save me

2018-09-12 15:06:02 UTC  

And answer my question

2018-09-12 15:06:14 UTC  

we have hegemony of the commodity form, everyone is forced to participate in what is functionally one economy

2018-09-12 15:06:21 UTC  

Rip

2018-09-12 15:06:40 UTC  

so this is like a gift which is given to us, a gift we don't want but we are powerless because we cannot refuse it (seemingly)

2018-09-12 15:07:24 UTC  

All baudrillard really says then is that it's about turning power against itself, and also that systems get more fragile as they get more perfect

2018-09-12 15:08:04 UTC  

so "the system" is definitely vulnerable. it's just we play into its hands perhaps by emphasizing all these different good guy/ bad guy schemes

2018-09-12 15:08:31 UTC  

Is this some sort of deterministic oriented philosophy?

2018-09-12 15:08:48 UTC  

I get the feeling that the distinctions regardless, main point being we're all in one coin.

2018-09-12 15:08:57 UTC  

Isn't all materialist philosophy inherently determisnistic

2018-09-12 15:09:00 UTC  

regardless of ideology to pick

2018-09-12 15:09:07 UTC  

Tru

2018-09-12 15:09:24 UTC  

How do I word this uhhhhh

2018-09-12 15:09:27 UTC  

it's more fatalist than deterministic but its like the same

2018-09-12 15:09:37 UTC  

^ yeh what I was trying to say

2018-09-12 15:09:44 UTC  

It reeks a bit of nihilism