Message from @nagarjuna
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YES
There is NO
"Oh I guess your chemical state had a direct effect on your consciousness"
proof to suggest otherwise
Also YES on that thing
again, there are rationalist critiques of this stuff. David Hume posed epistemological problems for science which have never been overcome
On a side note, it is a rather deep feeling of acknowleding that we're part of a continuation of long past events.
That sense of continuity
dat dooty
The sooner you get over it the better
Yes I am quite happy to meet Schopenhauer.
However, nagarjuna
If you want to seriously argue against anything but strict determinism
You ought to analyze a mentally-handicapped person and observe his "free-will" and consciousness
>If you want to seriously argue against anything but strict determinism
what does this mean, if I want to argue against determinism?
If you want to suggest or imply that the world around us is not deterministic
Does a person intoxicated and doing shit he doesn't usually does
count as free will?
Or would it be within the purview of the brain's chemical's state?
I have no problem with determinism, fatalism is of course similar. to me the difference can even be expressed within science. If time is not a natural kind but rather an emergent property, then there is no determinism because there is really no temporal line in which one thing causes what happens "after" it. there is no after
I obviously cannot prove that time is not "real" but the topic does come up in science. for example there is no time for light i believe
The response to that is that the initial start point of energy-matter and spacetime occurs
So metaphysics is out of the question?
No
oh
why not simply an eternal universe
it's against the laws of physics
How come there would be an eternal universe when big bang says otherwise
Cosmic background radiation and what not
But, in general we reach a paradox
also at that level you're saying that everything is determined by the start of the universe. then the idea that the superstructure is determined by the base is wrong-> both are determined by the big bang
A causeless event
So the question reverts back to what made this start of things?
Which is a given that is assumed by physics
No I dont think we can ever determine that
but we don't really know what happened at the big bang we can only get to within the last split second but its still important. there are competing theories
Should ethics be concerned about this?
It still comes down to a causeless event
Knowing the beginning of everything?
Ehh up to them lol
Right but that just shows science can't explain everything lambo