Message from @rupan
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But can't we rather talk hypothetical about it?
How did Nietzsche built his foundations on nothing?
It wasn't on nothing
>So do we really have a choice? Or do we just obey what our mind perceives to be reasonable course in action?
I would phrase this as you respond to the challenge of the world at each moment
There was evidence in his own terms
That would also imply that we "obey"
"I would phrase this as you respond to the challenge of the world at each moment"
Am I truly challenging the world? Or am I just reacting to what I am supposed to do due to the pre-events determining my course of forming these sort of thoughts?
Are you even real people or am I asleep?
You are reacting
Let me give you solid proof
aight
Put your hand in icy cold water for an hour
Ah the reflex
Should be below 20 Deg Celsius Idk what that is for fahrenheit
Or something else
Just one of millions
alrite
Use heroin
Where is your free will now
Drink 7 beers in a row
i mean are you just saying we're subject to cause and effect...?
Yes
YES
There is NO
"Oh I guess your chemical state had a direct effect on your consciousness"
proof to suggest otherwise
Also YES on that thing
again, there are rationalist critiques of this stuff. David Hume posed epistemological problems for science which have never been overcome
On a side note, it is a rather deep feeling of acknowleding that we're part of a continuation of long past events.
That sense of continuity
dat dooty
The sooner you get over it the better
Yes I am quite happy to meet Schopenhauer.
However, nagarjuna
If you want to seriously argue against anything but strict determinism
You ought to analyze a mentally-handicapped person and observe his "free-will" and consciousness
>If you want to seriously argue against anything but strict determinism
what does this mean, if I want to argue against determinism?
If you want to suggest or imply that the world around us is not deterministic
Does a person intoxicated and doing shit he doesn't usually does
count as free will?