This is the way the world is

You want to avoid being tortured. I want to create beauty.

You want global communist revolution or what ever it is you want

I want to improve the genes of humanity [Editor's note: *change the genes of humanity]

My values are objective. I uphold them because it is a necessity to do so in my condition.

What are your values, and how are they more objective than mine?

Objective values are based on dialectical materialist understanding.

Gas yourself Nihilist

a nihilist thats it!

As you don't know dialectics you can't be a proper materialist

If there is a higher purpose in the world then white people are the ones closest to finding it

and your values are not objective

How can you prove that communism is objectively necessary more than I can prove that pugnism is objectively necessary?

Why is it good to know dialectics?

Why is it good to be a proper materialist?

@Cui bono? what do you mean by higher purpose

Use dialectics to prove your objective values

do it now

@Hagel communism is necessary because Capitalism is doomed

What do I know, maybe god, maybe something else, the quest for finding a purporse is essential to the human expericence

And asking for the purpose in anything is already a framed question

@Cui bono? why would you consider it just one higher purpose though
And why are white people in a better position to find it

@Hagel It is easy really. But to understand that proof you have to try very hard. The common production of goods is in no contradiction to common consumption of goods. While common production of goods is in contradiction with a private consumption. Production is socially based while consumption is privately based. To eradicate this conflict at some point the private consumption will change to common consumption.

That's not a value

that's a prediction, like energy will equal MC^2

And that's all

It is a prediction

Your values are not more objective than mine

Because white people are the most capable of feeling empathy which is what makes us different from animals, we can tame our primitive instincs and have a higher level of conciousness that allows us no to live in the moment like a pathetic animal controlled only by its biological code.

Asians are smart but lack empathy andd curiosity

Blacks are just too dumb.

I have a value that meets scientific prediction. Prediction may be not 100% correct but a very close to. If I to make private property common I release the conflict and society goes on the next stage. Is my goal and a prediction. Is my subjective and objective. They are met.

You desire what will (according to you, it hasn't happened yet) happen

The desire is no more objective than any other

It is not a desire at all. I'm fine in capitalism myself.

It's a value

You value it

You said so yourself

It is understanding of reality and bringing your values up to your understanding

Its both

While some of us are idealists and are trying to make values out of pure ideas.