Message from @Firefly
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You would have me believe that I don't *have* to do anything, so stop telling me what I have to do
You silly wanker
Beauty is not important as well as dopamine.
It is important to me
As surely as water can freeze or turn to gas
Switch to serotonin.
And you'll notice, if you examine yourself, that you also have things that you care about
because those values are part of your nature
Those values are instinctual and related to genes
So?
They don't have abstract significance.
I do not buy this shit. Instinct is different from logic.
Why do you accept your values, but not mine?
You have your values, and I have mine
This is the way the world is
You want to avoid being tortured. I want to create beauty.
You want global communist revolution or what ever it is you want
I want to improve the genes of humanity [Editor's note: *change the genes of humanity]
My values are objective. I uphold them because it is a necessity to do so in my condition.
What are your values, and how are they more objective than mine?
Gas yourself Nihilist
a nihilist thats it!
As you don't know dialectics you can't be a proper materialist
If there is a higher purpose in the world then white people are the ones closest to finding it
and your values are not objective
How can you prove that communism is objectively necessary more than I can prove that pugnism is objectively necessary?
Why is it good to know dialectics?
Why is it good to be a proper materialist?
@Cui bono? what do you mean by higher purpose
Use dialectics to prove your objective values
do it now
What do I know, maybe god, maybe something else, the quest for finding a purporse is essential to the human expericence
And asking for the purpose in anything is already a framed question
@Cui bono? why would you consider it just one higher purpose though
And why are white people in a better position to find it
@Hagel It is easy really. But to understand that proof you have to try very hard. The common production of goods is in no contradiction to common consumption of goods. While common production of goods is in contradiction with a private consumption. Production is socially based while consumption is privately based. To eradicate this conflict at some point the private consumption will change to common consumption.
That's not a value
that's a prediction, like energy will equal MC^2
And that's all
It is a prediction