Yes it was established with participation of marxists but in German SPD always was bourgeois, opportunist tendency like Bernstein, Kautsky and so on who became anticommunists and antimarxists

>when you uphold capitalism while pretending to be socialist

You guys really like to say that all these failed socialists arent REAAAL socialists

Like venezuela

Laos

Weimar republic

Laos is not failed

Oh they arent reallll

Weimar Republic is capitalist

This tendency won in 1914 when 2nd Intenational collapsed because socdems became fucking social-chovinists supported imperialist government

Venezuela is third world Scandinavia

And yet it was run by socialists attempting to make it socialist

>When you have 70% of your industry privatised but right wingers think your socialist

Lads just move on

@PugSlugger show me what was "socialist" in Weimar republic in economy?

Youre trying to revive a been there done that trash ideology

Its centuries old

Put it to bed

@PugSlugger trash is here you)

Socialism is when da government does stuff. The more stuff it does, the more socialister it is

Strawman and no true scotsman at once

The left truely cant debate

The right can't fight

And the right can't identify fallacies

@PugSlugger because fucking right discurs can't see actual basement of socialism if you try to find it in phrases then you see the same communists and social democrats in Weimar republic)

Hitler was "socialist" too probably he was marxist?

Venezuela was variant of anti-imperialist struggle, they used socialist phraseology but this wasn't never a scientific criteria of socialism because socialism is about socialization of means of production, dictatorship of the proletariat in different forms (Soviet power or people's democracy). They cancelled to provide any communist measures and tryed to keep capitalism that's why they failed in fact instead devolepment of revolutionary process they remained on point of bourgeois economy and nationalization didn't became a point to socialization means of production.

Don’t try and debate pugsligger and mr e they always argue in bad faith

https://www.ihr.org/other/weber2011fakequotations.html @Buy me a pc

The four musketeers:
@DOg
@Adolf Hitler
@Mr. X
@PugSlugger

was hitler really that bad?

more western-nonsense propaganda perpetrated and funded by mossad

autism squad roll out

@DA GOMMIE JOO no refuting done, as per usual

I really don't see much to refute here

you asked a question

what am I supposed to say

as expected of a commie, eluding my question