Message from @Markos

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2019-02-03 22:10:11 UTC  

It is purity spiralling 101

2019-02-03 22:10:42 UTC  

The left isn't too much different though

2019-02-03 22:12:36 UTC  

True.

2019-02-03 22:12:56 UTC  

Even so, the left does manage itself better and I think the left is more capable of coming together when need be than the right.

2019-02-03 22:13:30 UTC  

Right unity always has been and always will be a joke. Left unity is more a union of convenience, but at least we have been able to do it.

2019-02-03 22:13:43 UTC  

The far right will always be brutes, at least the left has solid theory behind it

2019-02-03 22:15:10 UTC  

Yeah, and we also have leftists who have given talks about how ideological purity is self corruptive. Most famously Zizek. The far right is rarely able to put their differences aside.

2019-02-03 22:15:21 UTC  

I am specifically thinking about Marxism-Leninism here, and the ongoing efforts to update the science

2019-02-03 22:15:47 UTC  

Though, I'd be lying if I said they haven't done it a few times. I think Hoppe was able to help stitch up Libertarians and Fascists.

2019-02-03 22:16:50 UTC  

For sure. Apparently it is pretty common for Libertarians to become Fascist, or some other variant like Neoreaction.

2019-02-03 22:18:24 UTC  

A lot of Libertarians hold ideas that lead them to becoming fascists easily. Hell, That Guy T spilled the beans in one video where he talked about "Libertarian fascism" and showed how many fascist ideas can be argued from a Libertarian POV.

2019-02-03 22:18:39 UTC  

Want a white ethnostate? Just privately buy a bunch of land and bar anyone who isn't white from entering.

2019-02-03 22:18:51 UTC  

Call it "Voluntary white association."

2019-02-03 22:20:26 UTC  

Want to preserve western civilization? Hold onto these values through private property... somehow. With this in mind, it's not unlikely to see someone moving from that to taking more extreme means to "preserve western civ" if you think private property won't be enough to do it anymore

2019-02-03 22:21:00 UTC  

*insert physical removal meme*

2019-02-03 22:23:09 UTC  

Definitely. Hoppe definitely did help many Lolbertarians go from that to far-right since they already held that idea. I know physical removal isn't *necessarily* "kill those who disagree," but it's more so "kick out those who don't agree."

2019-02-03 22:24:32 UTC  

All you have to do is prevent them having children

2019-02-03 22:24:41 UTC  

And then you're golden

2019-02-03 22:25:28 UTC  

Prevent who from having children?

2019-02-03 22:25:53 UTC  

whoever your undesirables are

2019-02-03 22:26:10 UTC  

Then theres no physical removal thing

2019-02-03 22:26:12 UTC  

And how would you do that, Mr. Dictator? Where is your state?

2019-02-03 22:26:40 UTC  

I don't have one but that's why I didn't say all I have to do is stop them having children

2019-02-03 22:26:42 UTC  

Well, Capitalism is already preventing people from having kids. It's hard to have kids when you and your SO are working 2 jobs. No time for babymaking.

2019-02-03 22:26:55 UTC  

Heh

2019-02-03 22:27:00 UTC  

And it's anyone who isn't at least upper middle class.

2019-02-03 22:27:27 UTC  

Only the very poor and the very rich reproduce. Weird dichotomy

2019-02-03 22:27:32 UTC  

Capitalism prevents the wrong people from having kids

2019-02-03 22:27:52 UTC  

Yes exactly the poor and people who don't care about the welfare or raising the child

2019-02-03 22:28:27 UTC  

Good luck with sterilising the poor, buddy

2019-02-03 22:28:45 UTC  

taxation on the middle class prevents them from having children despite them being the lifeblood of any state

2019-02-03 22:28:48 UTC  

"Wrong people." <:bour:313709044957315082>

2019-02-03 22:28:51 UTC  

And culture

2019-02-03 22:28:57 UTC  

Tax the rich 100%.

2019-02-03 22:29:17 UTC  

idgaf about the rich

2019-02-03 22:29:31 UTC  

Cut the military spending by 700 billion dollars and put all that money into weflare.

2019-02-03 22:29:34 UTC  

they will leave if any state tries anything

2019-02-03 22:29:48 UTC  

Then just kill them.

2019-02-03 22:29:54 UTC  

They can't leave if they're dead.

2019-02-03 22:29:55 UTC  

Have you realised yet that your preferences don't really matter unless you have a way to implement them.

2019-02-03 22:30:00 UTC  

don't be thick