Yeah, there's a lot of white nationalists in the military.

I think the most famous one was Timothy McVeigh.

The cutting edge of National Socialism now is Anarchist insurrectionist praxis. Informal, decentralised, horizontal etc. I wouldn't be suprised if they abandon state politics altogether and go full anarchist, in line with some of the more occult aspects of the culture now taking prominence.

national socialist german workers

Yeah, Angela Nagle and Slavoj Zizek have talked about this. The far right used to just take leftists talking points but now they outright take leftist ways of doing things. I don't know how successful it has been. Atomwaffen and Antipodean are generally laughed at and not that successful really.

Well it goes a little deeper than imitation. They have occult groups like ONA which are behind a lot of these developments.

However, you are right, I don't especially think they have a coherent plan. Trying to bring about the collapse and leaving the future up to negation for the sake of bring about the new Universal Order is a strangle gamble, and frankly one I wouldn't want to take myself.

Strangely, a lot of anarchist groups also members of this collapse cult.

It really shows the poverty of there worldview and theory

Yeah, and this new development has led the far right to become very cannibalistic. I've seen a lot of Siege Nazis shitting on the alt right and vice versa.

Like this 4chan board which is far right cannibalism
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/201295871/everybody-is-reading-siege-by-james-mason

It is purity spiralling 101

The left isn't too much different though

True.

Even so, the left does manage itself better and I think the left is more capable of coming together when need be than the right.

Right unity always has been and always will be a joke. Left unity is more a union of convenience, but at least we have been able to do it.

The far right will always be brutes, at least the left has solid theory behind it

Yeah, and we also have leftists who have given talks about how ideological purity is self corruptive. Most famously Zizek. The far right is rarely able to put their differences aside.

I am specifically thinking about Marxism-Leninism here, and the ongoing efforts to update the science

Though, I'd be lying if I said they haven't done it a few times. I think Hoppe was able to help stitch up Libertarians and Fascists.

For sure. Apparently it is pretty common for Libertarians to become Fascist, or some other variant like Neoreaction.

A lot of Libertarians hold ideas that lead them to becoming fascists easily. Hell, That Guy T spilled the beans in one video where he talked about "Libertarian fascism" and showed how many fascist ideas can be argued from a Libertarian POV.

Want a white ethnostate? Just privately buy a bunch of land and bar anyone who isn't white from entering.

Call it "Voluntary white association."

Want to preserve western civilization? Hold onto these values through private property... somehow. With this in mind, it's not unlikely to see someone moving from that to taking more extreme means to "preserve western civ" if you think private property won't be enough to do it anymore

*insert physical removal meme*

Definitely. Hoppe definitely did help many Lolbertarians go from that to far-right since they already held that idea. I know physical removal isn't *necessarily* "kill those who disagree," but it's more so "kick out those who don't agree."

All you have to do is prevent them having children

And then you're golden

Prevent who from having children?

whoever your undesirables are

Then theres no physical removal thing

And how would you do that, Mr. Dictator? Where is your state?

I don't have one but that's why I didn't say all I have to do is stop them having children

Well, Capitalism is already preventing people from having kids. It's hard to have kids when you and your SO are working 2 jobs. No time for babymaking.

Heh

And it's anyone who isn't at least upper middle class.

Only the very poor and the very rich reproduce. Weird dichotomy

Capitalism prevents the wrong people from having kids

Yes exactly the poor and people who don't care about the welfare or raising the child

Good luck with sterilising the poor, buddy