I don't know my friend

But it would not be a capitalist one

"Modernize" lol. Leftism is all about progress. Progressing past the modern way of doing things.

Since Socialism is about seizing and increasing productive forces, finance isn't immediately useful, especially since after a revolution currencies go to shit

The idea what what is now must necessarily exist forever is corrosive.

Because I think capitalism causes culture deterioration and I dislike that

I think materialism leads to nihilism and I think materialism comes with capitalism

You sound SocDem to me.

I don't think you should say that leftism is all about progress

I'm not a believer in democracies

But it is. Or at least an aspect of it is.

You and Bordiga.

Most of your talking points seem straight from 4chan

Also, no fucking duh Capitalism causes cultural deterioration. How can you have a culture and market? Anything that can be sold *will* be sold.

Most of USA culture comes from Corporations.

If you say that progress is an intrinsic property of something I think that would result in culture deterioration also

Why is a wedding ring a cultural symbol of marriage? Da Beers said so. Why is bacon an eggs a staple of American Breakfast? Fucking Edward Bernays.

USA is capitalist culture that is the culture

Cultures will change no matter what we do. It's just the change shouldn't be synthetic and caused by someone trying to sell you something.

But here in Europe we were not always this way it is because of America that we have become that way

You did it to yourselves, be honest.

Matter and motion, everything is in constant change, including culture. You are swimming up stream if you hold onto it too tightly

What with the fact Europe took over 90% of the world.

I do not care about this though

Sure, some of the cultural exchange helped them a lot. Many things from the America's sparked European culture like Tomatoes, chocolate, vanilla, peppers, and quinine.

You should. It was a crucial part in history and had a massive impact.

Oh yeah, and the potato. That also helped out Europe.

It is true and I have been born into the historical context that I have been born into but I don't even consider the prospect of being sorry about that

And I don't consider it something that Europeans brought upon themselves

Who said sorry?

I never said feel sorry for it.

No I'm just saying

I just said it happened and lead to what is now.

And yes, Europeans did it to themselves.

You said we brought it on ourselves with the imperialism

I disagree

Yes, I did and fine but you're wrong.

I think Europe's colonialism and conquest was linked with the creation of its culture

Elite art and philosophical advancement

Capitalism denigrates art and philosophy becomes a joke

Why do you have so many immigrants? Many were brought in. Why are you facing Radical Islamic terrorism? UK betrayed the Hashimites, overthrew Iran's democratically elected president in 1953, and supported the Mujahideen along with America during the Soviet-Afghan war.